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Isotron ??
If I'm treading old ground please excuse the post. Today at the local
hamfest I ran across a 20 meter Isotron that the seller touting. After looking at its simplicity and hearing how great it was I couldn't resist because it was only $10.00. So now that I have it, I'm curious as to the theory behind it and how an 89 turn coil of No. 12 wire on a 3/4" piece of PVC along with a 12" aluminum rod and a couple of aluminum plates can load and dissipate 1000 watts. I've seen their ads for years and always thought they were snake oil but at $10.00 I bit. Anyone really know the theory behind these things? tnx Hank WD5JFR |
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:15:52 GMT, "Henry Kolesnik"
wrote: If I'm treading old ground please excuse the post. Today at the local hamfest I ran across a 20 meter Isotron that the seller touting. After looking at its simplicity and hearing how great it was I couldn't resist because it was only $10.00. So now that I have it, I'm curious as to the theory behind it and how an 89 turn coil of No. 12 wire on a 3/4" piece of PVC along with a 12" aluminum rod and a couple of aluminum plates can load and dissipate 1000 watts. I've seen their ads for years and always thought they were snake oil but at $10.00 I bit. Anyone really know the theory behind these things? tnx Hank WD5JFR Hi Hank, This intersects with so many recent topics, it is hard to know where to begin. First, undoubtedly through the combination of capacitance (the plates) the inductance (the windings) and radiation resistance, it resonates and sheds heat like your grandmother's clothes iron. That it is so small, it automatically removes it from concerns of being too big to qualify as lumped components (I will bet the current into the coil nearly equals the current into its other end). Some claims bandied here would have us believe that its "high Q" renders an efficiency (per unit length) unparalleled since the days of Watt's steam engine. It must certainly be competitive with italian eh models and show more gain than a Georgia AM station converted to cfa (but only for the first 300 yards). If none of this satisfies your quest for understanding; then you can, of course, visit the vendor's site, observe their "how it works" description and then find the exact same wording in an unbiased review from 1996. ;-) 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
Today at the local
hamfest I ran across a 20 meter Isotron that the seller touting. Anyone really know the theory behind these things? As far as I can tell the Isotron is a parallel tuned circuit. On 20M it should work as well as any other antenna of the same size and height above ground, cause it depends on feed line radiation, just like all the other "small' antennas. On 20 it should do ok, but try one on 80 or 160M. I would not put a 20M Isotron on the air if someone gave me one. There are too many other ways to get out a decent signal. I might take it apart and use the aluminum plates, PVC, and wire on a later project, though. 73 Gary N4AST |
I don't think the parts are worth $5.00 purchased retail.
Hank "JGBOYLES" wrote in message ... Today at the local hamfest I ran across a 20 meter Isotron that the seller touting. Anyone really know the theory behind these things? As far as I can tell the Isotron is a parallel tuned circuit. On 20M it should work as well as any other antenna of the same size and height above ground, cause it depends on feed line radiation, just like all the other "small' antennas. On 20 it should do ok, but try one on 80 or 160M. I would not put a 20M Isotron on the air if someone gave me one. There are too many other ways to get out a decent signal. I might take it apart and use the aluminum plates, PVC, and wire on a later project, though. 73 Gary N4AST |
I don't think the parts are worth $5.00 purchased retail.
I agree Hank, if you want something small and cheap on 20M, lots of alternatives. 73 Gary N4AST |
The theory has been worked out for the last 100 years and your Isotron will
work exactly as the theory predicts. Radiated power will be about 1 watt and the antenna itself will glow in the dark. I'm surprised you backward Yanks still believe sales blurbs. In Europe we have what are known as "The Trades Description Acts" (Of parliament). ---- Reg. |
Reg
Yanks started on snake oil in the old west and can't break the habit. I'm a Canuck and didn't get as exposed! But a little more info would be appreciated. Also I'm wondering if the angle of the dangle on the Isotron is important, hi..hi.. 73 Hank WD5JFR "Reg Edwards" wrote in message ... The theory has been worked out for the last 100 years and your Isotron will work exactly as the theory predicts. Radiated power will be about 1 watt and the antenna itself will glow in the dark. I'm surprised you backward Yanks still believe sales blurbs. In Europe we have what are known as "The Trades Description Acts" (Of parliament). ---- Reg. |
That is probably like our "truth in advertising" laws. They are on the books
but poorly enforced. It is, in most cases up to the consumer to enforce these laws by lawsuit. "Reg Edwards" wrote in message ... In Europe we have what are known as "The Trades Description Acts" (Of parliament). ---- Reg. |
Hank, I had one for 10 meters and it worked as well as any generic 1/4 wave, sort of. Not my first choice, but if you need an unobtrusive antenna, it works, and it's better than nothing. Don't know about the 20 meter one, but the 10 meter Isotron was a real P.I.T.A. to tune. 'Doc PS - The thing about 'snake oil', most of it contained alcohol. Drink enough of it and who cares if it works or not... |
UK Trade Description Act, 1968.
It is an offence for a trader to apply a false or misleading description to goods. (Note it is the trader, not the manufacturer, who is involved.) All goods are covered except houses. The local (the Council) Trading Standard Authorities are under a statutary duty to enforce the act. The local Trading Standards Officer has powers of entry, inspection and seizure of goods. It is not the job of the Authority to obtain compensation for the offence but to take steps necessary to prevent others from being deceived such as confiscation of goods from shops. It is up to the purchaser to take action in the civil courts for compensation. With the support of the Authority he will very likely succeed. But for the sake of a falsely-described, $10, second-hand radio antenna is it worth the trouble? The Trading Standards Officer would have to engage the services of consultant radio engineers to conduct prolonged and expensive field trials in order to prove the point. A court of law would not accept a mere statement of Maxwells equations or any of Terman's or Kraus's learned dissertations. A bewigged judge, of course, would be well advised to seek the opinions to be found on this newsgroup. ---- Reg, G4FGQ |
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