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Any ideas for an omni directional antenna for 144.200 that could be
mounted above the topper of my pickup? Something like a halo/squalo? Scott N0EDV |
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Why not a Halo!
acepilot wrote: Any ideas for an omni directional antenna for 144.200 that could be mounted above the topper of my pickup? Something like a halo/squalo? Scott N0EDV |
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![]() Dale, I'm not disputing your claims, but what does "slightly more integrated gain", mean? 'Doc |
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Oops, my fault! I should have elaborated just a bit more. I'm looking
for something to build on the cheap because it will be basically a one-time use. A halo would be fine if I can build one. I have plans for something similar from the RSGB VHF/UHF Manual, but it doesn't show the feedpoint matching detail, so I'm not sure how to match it to 50 Ohms...something made of copper pipe or some 3/16" (I have a source) steel wire that is copper clad (power pole ground wire) that could handle 70 MPH. Scott N0EDV Dave Shrader wrote: Why not a Halo! acepilot wrote: Any ideas for an omni directional antenna for 144.200 that could be mounted above the topper of my pickup? Something like a halo/squalo? Scott N0EDV |
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![]() "'Doc" wrote in message ... Dale, I'm not disputing your claims, but what does "slightly more integrated gain", mean? 'Doc We sent all the commercially available omnis to the Motorola anechoic chamber in Boynton Beach FL. Traditional shortened dipole type omnis ( loop/haloes) showed an elliptical AZ pattern- about 3dB "out of omni" as I recall. If one only measured the gain off the front or rear this style antenna had more gain than the isosceles triangle style omni- whose electrical length is longer than a half wave. However if one looked at the gain every 10 degrees or so of azimuth and averaged this over the full 360 degrees, the triangle style had more gain- again, from memory, it was about 0.5 dB better- not a lot, but in the right direction. Modeling confirms both the pattern and gain. Dale W4OP |
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Scott, N0EDV wrote:
"I have plans for something similar from the RSGB VHF/UHF Manual, but it doesn`t show the feedpoint matching in detail, so I`m not sure how to match it to 50 Ohms." Mine is the 3rd edition with Halo Aerials starting on page 7.29. Make the shorting bar (A) adjustable in distance from the PL259, instead of brazed to the brass tubes. Adjust for minimum reflected power in your 50-ohm coax. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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Dale, W4OP wrote:
"We sent all the commercially available omnis to the Motorola anechoic chamber in Boynton Beach, FL." My first concern would be horizontal polarization, not eccentricity in azimuth. In a mobile station, I first would want to work other local mobiles. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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My book is the 4th edition, so I'm not sure which antenna you have. Is
its circumference listed as lambda/2 or 0.7536 lambda? If it's the one I suspect (0.7536 lambda) where do you feed it and where does the shorting bar that you mention go? Thanks! Scott N0EDV Richard Harrison wrote: Scott, N0EDV wrote: "I have plans for something similar from the RSGB VHF/UHF Manual, but it doesn`t show the feedpoint matching in detail, so I`m not sure how to match it to 50 Ohms." Mine is the 3rd edition with Halo Aerials starting on page 7.29. Make the shorting bar (A) adjustable in distance from the PL259, instead of brazed to the brass tubes. Adjust for minimum reflected power in your 50-ohm coax. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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Scott, N0EDV wrote:
"Here it is---." The 1/2-wave circumference halo at the top, is fed at points A-A and uses a typical gamma match. The one-wavelength loop doesn`t use a gamma match. It is in effect a quad loop antenna. It really shouldn`t need much impedance adjustment to match 50 or 70 ohms. In free-space, a full-wave loop has a feedpoint impedance of near 45 ohms. That may not have satisfied the designers. I don`t know the impedance of the 0.2 wavelength stub shown as a connection at points A-A for the feedline. With the line spacing shown, it probably has an intermediate impedance between that of the loop and the intended feedline. No gamma match and shorting bar are involved. The one-wavelength loop is not really omnidirectional. It has a 1-dB gain perpendicular to the plane of the loop in free-space. Best Regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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