Ok all noted on the many ideas.

Here is one for you boffins:

After having a look at the circular turnstile type antenna with a
groundplane ,I sent a request to the main manufactureers regarding
using this in an inverted state for what I wanted to do on the
repeater.Still yet to get a reply and after a few months I guess they
are still thinking about it.

If they advertised it so great for horizontal to near vertical
satellite work then the same principle should apply if inverted.

Style of eggbeater looking at .
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/on6wg/Do...Part1-Full.pdf

What do the Boffins suggest.