On Aug 30, 8:44*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin

wrote:
Yes, they are mine in this country but I am talking about
2008 when I applied for the subject antenna

Foundit. *It's not on Google Patents for some odd reason.
See: *Application Number 11/655899 *or *20080231540 *at:
http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1...
Sorry about the giant URL. *If that wraps or doesn't work, try:
http://appft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html
and type in either application number. *If you're going to refer to
your patent application by number, don't forget the 11/ prefix. *

For some odd reason, I can't see the five attached figures. *Probably
my fault (or Quicktime).

I suspect you may have some problems with claim 3.
"3. A clustered array according to claim 1 where the radiating
elements of said cluster have random three dimensional Cartesian
directional positions of placement with respect to each other and the
surface of the earth."

I don't think you can patent a random collection of elements as it
would be classed as too broad a claim. *That would encompass all
antennas that were NOT designed according to non-random calculations.
While the use of randomness is possible (and common) in patents, I've
noticed that they always disclose the method by which the randomness
is achieved.

I would be interesting in seeing a photo, NEC2 deck, and test results
for your random element antenna. *Take you time, no hurry.

The PTO has offered alternative claims but after trashing the request
such an offer would not stand up in court. True a lot of people are
just interested in saying they have a patent
but I am not willing to pay maintenance fees for something that does
not provide protection.
The killer of course is the allegation that I have not placed numbers
on a drawing which does not exist or was submitted from me. There is
no oversight or redress from an examiners descision and no discussion
available since he is not fluent in spoken English so time will run
out and it will be declared abandoned. Walter Cronkite had the phrase
that deals with such situations. By the way I use a program that uses
Mininec as well as being an optimizer. I did have a academic in the
antenna field confirm that my discovery was correct and provided NEC4
proofs which is what PTO accepts as a basic of proof. I got this
confirmation not because I doubted what I had but it is the thing all
engineers should do.
So my work will sleep with me at night and never see the light of day
and hams can feel they have lost nothing. At present I have no
antennas left to operate on.


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