On Sep 1, 1:24*pm, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:
JIMMIE wrote:
Nothing wrong with this patent application except that granting it
would give Art rights to every antenna made. An antenna with randomly
placed elements could be defined as almost anything. In other words
the patent application lacks UNIQUENESS.

I disgree. If you place element(s) deliberately, they are not placed
randomly. It may appear random, for example a discone made of wire elements
for both the disk and the cone, but I assure you they were not placed randomly.
Maybe not with much forethought, or any accuracy, but that is still not
random.

Even if I were to toss a wire out of my window and let it fall where it may,
that is not random. There are some random elements of it's placement (where
is Ian Malcom when you need him), but the size, length and type of wire were
chosen by me, the window was chosen by me, and I had some control of the
direction and force.

Seemingly random, arbitrary, etc seem more appropriate than random.

Geoff.

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel *N3OWJ/4X1GM

Could be, but in this case there are three degrees of freedom for
placement where only the
cluster as a whole meets equilibrium are those that are acceptable
under the claims.
For descriptive purposes those familiar with the art or even physics
would accept almost anything as long as the entirety is considered in
equilibrium. Remember that after one element is placed in position at
any random place or angle then other added must follow in kind
dependent on how many elements are added even tho the first two
element placed meets all the requirement for commercials. Never the
less, one can choose to include any number of element to be used where
the addition of one immediately changes the position of others
including length to remain in equilibrium. So as I stated before there
is no datum to fix upon so that metrics can be applied. In any othe
Country a cluster of elements which in their entirety are in a state
of equilibrium is acceptable. As seen by prior posts on this newsgroup
"equilibrium" provides confusion in the U.S. and was the subject of
many years of auguement But for those familiar with the state of the
art would see no problem.
and it is they that all patents are addressed to.