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It seems that some do not understand what the Corriolis force is so
here goes
When the Big Bang ocurred all energy was in an arbitrary boundary
just like the Sun is. When the forces ( four forces of the Standard
model) could not be contained with in the boundary the boundary broke
which as scientists state was the begining of our Universe. Before the
arbitrary boundary broke it is a state of equilibrium ( This is also
duplicated by the Sun) You can visualize a ball which contains all
energy by placing vectors all around the inside where for every vector
on the inside there is an equal and opposite on the outside. Tho
energy cannot be created or destroyed, kinetic energy can occur at the
expense of potential energy such that the outside vectors are over
come. The boundary breaks and the excess forces are released until
the boundary is able to return to a state of equilibrium. Now when the
break occurs it is at the point of a particular vector such that the
breakage is created by a shearing action, as the forces in question
was not aligned, with spin. Thus when any energy,particles etc they
escaped with a spin action which force forces to balance requires an
equal and opposite reaction and the Corriolis force is that component.
Without the Corriolis component we could not remain on this Earth and
gravity could not exist. Thus to state spin or torque is not a force
is truly rediculous. Let the insults come.
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Art Unwin wrote:
It seems that some do not understand what the Corriolis force is so
here goes
When the Big Bang ocurred all energy was in an arbitrary boundary
just like the Sun is. When the forces ( four forces of the Standard
model) could not be contained with in the boundary the boundary broke
which as scientists state was the begining of our Universe. Before the
arbitrary boundary broke it is a state of equilibrium ( This is also
duplicated by the Sun) You can visualize a ball which contains all
energy by placing vectors all around the inside where for every vector
on the inside there is an equal and opposite on the outside. Tho
energy cannot be created or destroyed, kinetic energy can occur at the
expense of potential energy such that the outside vectors are over
come. The boundary breaks and the excess forces are released until
the boundary is able to return to a state of equilibrium. Now when the
break occurs it is at the point of a particular vector such that the
breakage is created by a shearing action, as the forces in question
was not aligned, with spin. Thus when any energy,particles etc they
escaped with a spin action which force forces to balance requires an
equal and opposite reaction and the Corriolis force is that component.
Without the Corriolis component we could not remain on this Earth and
gravity could not exist. Thus to state spin or torque is not a force
is truly rediculous. Let the insults come.


Have you ever considered stand up comedy?

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On Sep 2, 9:22*pm, tom wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
It seems that some do not understand what the Corriolis force is so
here goes
When the Big Bang ocurred all energy was in *an arbitrary boundary
just like the Sun is. When the forces *( four forces of the Standard
model) could not be contained with in the boundary the boundary broke
which as scientists state was the begining of our Universe. Before the
arbitrary boundary broke it is a state of equilibrium ( This is also
duplicated by the Sun) You can visualize a ball which contains all
energy by placing vectors all around the inside where for every vector
on the inside there is an equal and opposite on the outside. Tho
energy cannot be created or destroyed, kinetic energy can occur at the
expense of potential energy such that the outside vectors are over
come. *The boundary breaks and the excess forces are released until
the boundary is able to return to a state of equilibrium. Now when the
break occurs it is *at the point of a particular vector such that the
breakage is created by a shearing action, as the forces in question
was not aligned, with spin. Thus when any energy,particles etc *they
escaped with a spin action which force forces to balance requires an
equal and opposite reaction and the Corriolis force is that component.
Without the Corriolis component we could not remain on this Earth and
gravity could not exist. Thus to state spin or torque is not a force
is truly rediculous. Let the insults come.


Have you ever considered stand up comedy?

tom
K0TAR


Heh it is just standard classical physics. Just like saying a tornado
is not a force.
or a antenna cannot be resonant. Totally rediculous. If you want to
know more take a physics lesson maybe more than one in your case. Now
the Electroweak force is only called weak because it is the weakest of
all the initial forces created in the big bang. This
is the force created as a result of two forces acting towards each
other but not on the same plain where a boundary is broken. Plain
Classical Physics, nothing more.


e big b ang
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Art Unwin wrote:

Heh it is just standard classical physics. Just like saying a tornado
is not a force.
or a antenna cannot be resonant. Totally rediculous. If you want to
know more take a physics lesson maybe more than one in your case. Now
the Electroweak force is only called weak because it is the weakest of
all the initial forces created in the big bang. This
is the force created as a result of two forces acting towards each
other but not on the same plain where a boundary is broken. Plain
Classical Physics, nothing more.


e big b ang


As usual, a response that contains absolutely no information and some
perfectly well done misspellings.

No acknowledgment of the previous posts or of the information presented.

Classic Art.

You really have to love his style.

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On Sep 2, 10:03*pm, tom wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:

Heh it is just standard classical physics. *Just like saying a tornado
is not a force.
or a antenna cannot be resonant. Totally rediculous. If you want to
know more take a physics lesson *maybe more than one in your case. Now
the Electroweak force is only called weak because it is the weakest of
all the initial forces created in the big bang. This
is the force created as a result of two forces acting towards each
other but not on the same plain where a boundary is broken. Plain
Classical Physics, nothing more.


e big b ang


As usual, a response that contains absolutely no information and some
perfectly well done misspellings.

No acknowledgment of the previous posts or of the information presented.

Classic Art.

You really have to love his style.

tom
K0TAR


But Tom your previous posts have not contained anything to respond to
unless you want retalatory sniping, but that is a waste of time. As
for no information presented, Einstein died
before Electroweak force was resolved tho he was convinced the answer
was related to radiation. Now I have identified it to you! Surely you
feel good. You now know something
that all the big boys have struggled after. The Electroweak force is
that which propells particles into free space so that it accelerates
in a straight line. In other words "point radiation". This being
similar to eddy current. Einstein concentrated on internal and
external forces without concern to the "hoop stress" that is part and
parcel of all boundaries. Just like that which surround a bubble.
These same two vectors that create a shearing force is equal to the
combination of gravity and the Coriolis force. This is the reason why
a vertical antenna must be tipped to form a isotropic radiation
pattern in equilibrium which computer programs confirm. No, the above
is not printed any where in the College books, but it will.
No information you say? It is just that you can't handle it so you
depend on insults.
Yes, you did get information but you have not the grounding to
understand what you read.


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On Sep 2, 11:49*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 2, 10:03*pm, tom wrote:



Art Unwin wrote:


Heh it is just standard classical physics. *Just like saying a tornado
is not a force.
or a antenna cannot be resonant. Totally rediculous. If you want to
know more take a physics lesson *maybe more than one in your case. Now
the Electroweak force is only called weak because it is the weakest of
all the initial forces created in the big bang. This
is the force created as a result of two forces acting towards each
other but not on the same plain where a boundary is broken. Plain
Classical Physics, nothing more.


e big b ang


As usual, a response that contains absolutely no information and some
perfectly well done misspellings.


No acknowledgment of the previous posts or of the information presented..


Classic Art.


You really have to love his style.


tom
K0TAR


But Tom your previous posts have not contained anything to respond to
unless you want retalatory sniping, but that is a waste of time. As
for no information presented, Einstein died
before Electroweak force was resolved tho he was convinced the answer
was related to radiation. Now I have identified it to you! *Surely you
feel good. You now know something
that all the big boys have struggled after. *The Electroweak force is
that which propells particles into free space so that it accelerates
in a straight line. In other words "point radiation". This being
similar to eddy current. Einstein concentrated on internal and
external forces without concern to the "hoop stress" that is part and
parcel of all boundaries. Just like that which surround a bubble.
These same two vectors that create a shearing force is equal to the
combination of gravity and the Coriolis force. This is *the reason why
a vertical antenna must be tipped to form a isotropic radiation
pattern in equilibrium which computer programs confirm. No, the above
is not printed any where in the College books, but it will.
No information you say? It is just that you can't handle it so you
depend on insults.
Yes, you did get information but you have not the grounding to
understand what you read.


Whether Art is a troll or a blithering old coot he isn't here to learn
anything , he just wants to be entertained.

Jimmie
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"Art Unwin" wrote in message
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Without the Corriolis component we could not remain on this Earth and
gravity could not exist. Thus to state spin or torque is not a force
is truly rediculous. Let the insults come.


Before he tries to explain it further, perhaps he should learn to spell it.
(one "r")


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"Art Unwin" wrote in message
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It seems that some do not understand what the Corriolis force is so
here goes
When the Big Bang ocurred all energy was in an arbitrary boundary


that's enough... the rest is just more blabbering. first, spell it right,
its Coriolis with one r.
next, its not even a 'real' force, and is often called the Coriolis 'effect'
instead of force to make that clear. and it is not linked to gravity, its
linked to rotation. if the earth or any other body didn't rotate there
would be no Coriolis effect on it's surface and it would still have gravity.
I'm not even going to try to address the electro-weak babble, that is
totally non-sequitar.

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On Sep 3, 6:14*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

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It seems that some do not understand what the Corriolis force is so

an find the here goes
When the Big Bang ocurred all energy was in *an arbitrary boundary


that's enough... the rest is just more blabbering. *first, spell it right,
its Coriolis with one r.
next, its not even a 'real' force, and is often called the Coriolis 'effect'
instead of force to make that clear. *and it is not linked to gravity, its
linked to rotation. *if the earth or any other body didn't rotate there
would be no Coriolis effect on it's surface and it would still have gravity.
I'm not even going to try to address the electro-weak babble, that is
totally non-sequitar.


David, you can find the famous "exclusion principle" by Wolfgang Pauli
in any
book on Quantum Mechanics. You should write a paper on where he weny
wrong based on your intuition. That gun you are firing is getting
lower and lower that I fear for your foot !
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"Art Unwin" wrote in message
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On Sep 3, 6:14 pm, "Dave" wrote:
David, you can find the famous "exclusion principle" by Wolfgang Pauli
in any book on Quantum Mechanics.


ah, bringing the Pauli Exclusion Principle in on the discusion now, that is
a new one i think... can we now not have any of your magical levitating
diamagnetic neutrinos on an antenna in the same quantum states??



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