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A radio antenna may be defined as the structure associated with the

region of transition between a guided wave and a free-space wave, or
vice-versa. Antennas convert electrons to photons, or vice-versa.

Regardless of antenna type, all involve the same basic principle that

radiation is produced by accelerated (or decelerated) charge. The
basic equation of radiation may be expressed simply as:

IL = Qv (A m s^-1)


where


I = time-changing current, A s^-1
L = length of current element, m
Q = charge, C
v = time change of velocity which equals the acceleration of the
charge, m s^-2

Thus, time-changing current radiates and accelerated charge radiates.


In which parts of antenna the charges acclerate?
S*



In all the parts that carry current, of course. Isn't that obvious?

Incidentally, who is A* ? ... the person who wrote:

Does one wave has many polarizations, or one antenna has many
polarizations?
Which one: transmitter or receiver? Could you teach me?
A*

Chris


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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:56:07 +0100, "christofire"
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Incidentally, who is A* ?


He explained that he was typing one letter to the left. Doesn't the
content of his postings reveal that?

Retype one of his submissions by shifting your hands to the right one
key may reveal the contents to Dan Brown's newest book! It won't make
anymore sense, but Ron Howard may sign a deal to get Tom Hanks to post
here for him.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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"Richard Clark" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:56:07 +0100, "christofire"
wrote:

Incidentally, who is A* ?


He explained that he was typing one letter to the left. Doesn't the
content of his postings reveal that?

Retype one of his submissions by shifting your hands to the right one
key may reveal the contents to Dan Brown's newest book! It won't make
anymore sense, but Ron Howard may sign a deal to get Tom Hanks to post
here for him.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC



Didn't spot the explanation (have done now, thanks) and I did wonder if the
issue was that he couldn't type his own initial correctly. For a moment I
wondered if there were two alter egos: A* asks a question, apparently
sincerely, then, when given the answer, S* responds with rebuttal of the
correct answer and a lecture based on paraphysics and historical dead ends.
However, that would be bonkers.

Chris


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On Sep 14, 1:56*pm, "christofire" wrote:
"Szczepan Białek" wrote in message

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"Richard Fry" wrote
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A radio antenna may be defined as the structure associated with the

region of transition between a guided wave and a free-space wave, or
vice-versa. *Antennas convert electrons to photons, or vice-versa.


Regardless of antenna type, all involve the same basic principle that

radiation is produced by accelerated (or decelerated) charge. *The
basic equation of radiation may be expressed simply as:


IL = Qv * (A m s^-1)


where


I = time-changing current, A s^-1
L = length of current element, m
Q = charge, C
v = time change of velocity which equals the acceleration of the
charge, m s^-2


Thus, time-changing current radiates and accelerated charge radiates.


In which parts of antenna the charges acclerate?
S*


In all the parts that carry current, of course. *Isn't that obvious?

Incidentally, who is A* ? ... the person who wrote:

* * Does one wave has many polarizations, or one antenna has many
polarizations?
* * Which one: transmitter or receiver? Could you teach me?
* * A*

Chris


Could mean that Art and S are the same person, one does seem to appear
when the other disappears.

Jimmie
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"JIMMIE" wrote
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On Sep 14, 1:56 pm, "christofire" wrote:
"Szczepan Białek" wrote in message

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"Richard Fry" wrote
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QUOTE
A radio antenna may be defined as the structure associated with the

region of transition between a guided wave and a free-space wave, or
vice-versa. Antennas convert electrons to photons, or vice-versa.


Regardless of antenna type, all involve the same basic principle that

radiation is produced by accelerated (or decelerated) charge. The
basic equation of radiation may be expressed simply as:


IL = Qv (A m s^-1)


where


I = time-changing current, A s^-1
L = length of current element, m
Q = charge, C
v = time change of velocity which equals the acceleration of the
charge, m s^-2


Thus, time-changing current radiates and accelerated charge radiates.


In which parts of antenna the charges acclerate?
S*


In all the parts that carry current, of course. Isn't that obvious?

Incidentally, who is A* ? ... the person who wrote:

Does one wave has many polarizations, or one antenna has many
polarizations?
Which one: transmitter or receiver? Could you teach me?
A*

Chris


Could mean that Art and S are the same person, one does seem to appear

when the other disappears.

You are right. Few mans ago I was writting that Gauss law is enough to do
antennas. Of course not this for magnetism.
Static charge produces static electric field and pulsed (in the end of the
antena) alternating field. It is radiation. For me there are ether vaves.
For Art photons or something else.
S*



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"Szczepan Białek" wrote in message
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"JIMMIE" wrote
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On Sep 14, 1:56 pm, "christofire" wrote:
"Szczepan Białek" wrote in message

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"Richard Fry" wrote
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QUOTE
A radio antenna may be defined as the structure associated with the
region of transition between a guided wave and a free-space wave, or
vice-versa. Antennas convert electrons to photons, or vice-versa.


Regardless of antenna type, all involve the same basic principle that
radiation is produced by accelerated (or decelerated) charge. The
basic equation of radiation may be expressed simply as:


IL = Qv (A m s^-1)


where


I = time-changing current, A s^-1
L = length of current element, m
Q = charge, C
v = time change of velocity which equals the acceleration of the
charge, m s^-2


Thus, time-changing current radiates and accelerated charge radiates.


In which parts of antenna the charges acclerate?
S*


In all the parts that carry current, of course. Isn't that obvious?

Incidentally, who is A* ? ... the person who wrote:

Does one wave has many polarizations, or one antenna has many
polarizations?
Which one: transmitter or receiver? Could you teach me?
A*

Chris


Could mean that Art and S are the same person, one does seem to appear

when the other disappears.

You are right. Few mans ago I was writting that Gauss law is enough to do
antennas. Of course not this for magnetism.
Static charge produces static electric field and pulsed (in the end of the
antena) alternating field. It is radiation. For me there are ether vaves.
For Art photons or something else.
S*



Which one of Gauss's two laws?

Chris


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"Szczepan Białek" wrote in message
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"JIMMIE" wrote
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On Sep 14, 1:56 pm, "christofire" wrote:
"Szczepan Białek" wrote in message

...



"Richard Fry" wrote
...

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QUOTE
A radio antenna may be defined as the structure associated with the
region of transition between a guided wave and a free-space wave, or
vice-versa. Antennas convert electrons to photons, or vice-versa.

Regardless of antenna type, all involve the same basic principle that
radiation is produced by accelerated (or decelerated) charge. The
basic equation of radiation may be expressed simply as:

IL = Qv (A m s^-1)

where

I = time-changing current, A s^-1
L = length of current element, m
Q = charge, C
v = time change of velocity which equals the acceleration of the
charge, m s^-2

Thus, time-changing current radiates and accelerated charge radiates.

In which parts of antenna the charges acclerate?
S*

In all the parts that carry current, of course. Isn't that obvious?

Incidentally, who is A* ? ... the person who wrote:

Does one wave has many polarizations, or one antenna has many
polarizations?
Which one: transmitter or receiver? Could you teach me?
A*

Chris


Could mean that Art and S are the same person, one does seem to appear

when the other disappears.

You are right. Few mans ago I was writting that Gauss law is enough to do
antennas. Of course not this for magnetism.
Static charge produces static electric field and pulsed (in the end of
the antena) alternating field. It is radiation. For me there are ether
vaves. For Art photons or something else.
S*



Which one of Gauss's two laws?

Above is wrote: "Of course not this for magnetism". The electric one.
S*

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"Szczepan Białek" wrote in message
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You are right. Few mans ago I was writting that Gauss law is enough to
do antennas. Of course not this for magnetism.
Static charge produces static electric field and pulsed (in the end of
the antena) alternating field. It is radiation. For me there are ether
vaves. For Art photons or something else.
S*



Which one of Gauss's two laws?

Above is wrote: "Of course not this for magnetism". The electric one.
S*



Well that's not correct - you can't 'do antennas' with Guass's law for
electric field alone. You've already been told that radiation requires
acceleration and deceleration of charge, that is, alternating current, which
creates a magnetic field and the strength of this field is related to the
amplitude of the current by Ampere's (circuital) law, which is the basis for
one of Maxwell's equations.

In fact, it takes current (i.e. movement of charge) to create potential
differences so, even if you are encumbered with 'electrostatic blinkers',
the current comes first and is more fundamental.

Chris


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