Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #21   Report Post  
Old March 25th 10, 06:54 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Mar 2010
Posts: 19
Default RG6 and RG59

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:59:06 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
wrote:

Lostgallifreyan wrote:

Yes, if I was using for UHF and perhaps VHF as they sell it for. But as far
as I know the older UG59 used a braid with better physical coverage and was
specified for HF as well. I'd rather get something this time that has good HF
shielding as priority, so I'm not convinced that RG6 is the right choice. A
bit of extra loss isn't as bad as poor shielding.


The standard for cable tv and satellite instalations is RG6 "quad shield",
which has a less dense braid, but a (almost) 100% aluminum foil shield.

The question is how do you connect to it? Commerical applications use special
crimp on connectors, you can solder it with the proper flux.


Compression fittings. Easy to install, strong, water proof, and about
50 cents each.


A friend brought some Radio Shack screw on PL-259 connectors that work fine
with it, but they are $6 each in the US, and unavailable here.


And a waste of money.
The problem with the compression fittings is you need a compression
tool to install them although a pair of the "duck billed" vise grips,
or even pliers could be adapted to do the job. You only need hold the
front and back of the connector and then push the pack part with the
seal into the front part...a distance of maybe 1/8" (4mm) . The
commercial tools are kinda pricey, but you can make one up out of a
pair of pliers and a bit of ingenuity.

73

Roger (K8RI)


Geoff.

  #22   Report Post  
Old March 25th 10, 08:13 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Mar 2010
Posts: 2
Default RG6 and RG59

On Jan 29, 7:56*pm, Roy Lewallen wrote:
....
If there was a "best" cable, there would be only one type. Some have
lower loss, some are more flexible, some have better weather resistance,
some have better shielding, some have a longer lifetime, some tolerate
temperature extremes better, some are more uniform, some are less
expensive, and so forth.

So deciding which cable is "better" requires a lot more information
about what your requirements are.

....
Roy Lewallen, W7EL


Well said, Roy. I just purchased 2000 feet of "RG-6" coax. My main
goal was that I needed hundreds of feet of flooded coax with (good
shielding) that I could afford. The Commscope CATV aluminum foil/
braided coax that was available on eBay fit my needs perfectly.

I'm feeding my remote Beverages with it, as well as running medium
power to an inverted L on 160. Works great.

I'm convinced that no other coax at any price would have worked any
better.

73 Mike
W0BTU

  #23   Report Post  
Old March 25th 10, 11:26 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jan 2007
Posts: 46
Default RG6 and RG59

On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:36:46 -0400, Roger
wrote:

On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:47:29 -0600, Lostgallifreyan
wrote:

Roy Lewallen wrote in
om:

Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Roy Lewallen wrote in
:

If there was a "best" cable, there would be only one type. Some have
lower loss, some are more flexible, some have better weather
resistance, some have better shielding, some have a longer lifetime,
some tolerate temperature extremes better, some are more uniform, some
are less expensive, and so forth.

So deciding which cable is "better" requires a lot more information
about what your requirements are.


If I went into most places selling cables I'd get laughed at if I took
that line,


However he gave you the right answer to the question you asked.
There is no one best coax!
Are you just using it for receiving or transmitting as well. Typically
you don't find either of those cables used in ham stations, except to
feed Beverage receiving antennas.

I use a lot of "flooded" RG-6 with compression connectors for UHF
receiving. I use RG-8X (foil with shield) to the 40 meter, half wave
sloping dipoles. It's fairly rugged, very flexible, presents a low
profile to the wind and doesn't weight a lot. Its power handeling
capability is a bit low, but I haven't blown any out...yet, unlike
CNT-240.

they'd say 'hie me to a research lab, if not an actual
nunnery'.


Then perhaps you should purchase coax elsewhere?

Not that you're wrong, but if you want a single general
purpose cable for HF and VHF especially if stocking it for general
sale, then there IS a 'best' cable, defined simply by that which most
likely serves the wide range of purposes at a low price. Currently in
the UK that cable seems to be RG6; few places like to stock more than
one type for RF if they think one will do. . .


I take it then that this is not for an amateur radio station?


Sounds like you have your answer, then.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


Yes, if I was using for UHF and perhaps VHF as they sell it for. But as far
as I know the older UG59 used a braid with better physical coverage and was
specified for HF as well. I'd rather get something this time that has good HF
shielding as priority, so I'm not convinced that RG6 is the right choice. A
bit of extra loss isn't as bad as poor shielding.


RG-6 is foil plus braid and it doesn't get much better than that.
However for HF my choice would be RG-8X (with foil plus braid- it
comes in many forms) although I use LMR-600.


Good luck,

Roger (K8RI)



I use whatever cheap **** Radio Shack has on sale.

DXCC
5BWAS

  #24   Report Post  
Old March 25th 10, 07:45 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jun 2006
Posts: 828
Default RG6 and RG59

Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:

I use whatever cheap **** Radio Shack has on sale.


You might try their coax too!

- 73 de Mike N3LI -
Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:01 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017