On May 21, 7:24*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On May 19, 8:36 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



In textbooks are prsented all theories and hipothesis.
It is your choose which one do you prefer: EM, photons or like sound.
S*

mr. b. you and art should get together. *i'm sure his vortices off the

ends of his over optimized dipole would work well with your sound
model of electromagnetics.

Sound model of electric waves is the oldest (XIX century). I am not young
but it is not mine.

he has forced the particles off the dipole

by making it superconductive so they should respond like perfectly
compressible sound carriers and since they are massless the sound will
travel at the speed of light. *how perfect could that be! *both new
theories

May be that the Art's is a new. The "like sound" is the oldest.

come together in one big never ending thread where we can all

read the bafflegab and have a big laugh behind your backs, or maybe
right in your faces. *Sorry i've been a bit slow responding, i had a
nice trip to dayton, but didn't find any of the unwin antennas for
sale, or any sound driven dipoles out in the flea market either...

All dipoles are with the standing waves (like sound).

well, maybe next year, i'm sure you'll both be selling those new

superconductive longitudinal wave generating magical levitating
diamagnetic neutrino hyperwave antennas at bargain basement prices
after everyone learns how bad they really are.

"Like sound " antennas are in sale for ages.
If Art's are or will be - I do not know. I am not an expert. (I have trouble
with understanding Art's idea - he is using very sophistcated terms).
S*

show me the equations for modeling a dipole radiation pattern using
sound in free space, be sure to account for polarization.

"K1TTT" wrote
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On May 21, 7:24 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

In textbooks are prsented all theories and hipothesis.
It is your choose which one do you prefer: EM, photons or like sound.
S*

"Like sound " antennas are in sale for ages.
If Art's are or will be - I do not know. I am not an expert. (I have
trouble
with understanding Art's idea - he is using very sophistcated terms).
S*

show me the equations for modeling a dipole radiation pattern using
sound in free space, be sure to account for polarization.

I have something like this:
http://perg.phys.ksu.edu:80/vqmorig/...lit/vq_mws.htm

See also 1864 in:
http://online.physics.uiuc.edu/cours...omagnetism.pdf

Transversal wves have no sense. The equations are usefull for teaching the
math.

S*

On May 21, 5:48*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" wrote
...
On May 21, 7:24 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



In textbooks are prsented all theories and hipothesis.
It is your choose which one do you prefer: EM, photons or like sound.
S*

"Like sound " antennas are in sale for ages.
If Art's are or will be - I do not know. I am not an expert. (I have
trouble
with understanding Art's idea - he is using very sophistcated terms).
S*
show me the equations for modeling a dipole radiation pattern using

sound in free space, be sure to account for polarization.

I have something like this:http://perg.phys.ksu.edu:80/vqmorig/...ave/Slit/vq_mw...

See also 1864 in:http://online.physics.uiuc.edu/cours.../Lecture_Notes...

Transversal wves have no sense. The equations are usefull for teaching the
math.

S*

right, read this carefully from that 1864 note: 'the requirements of
his mechanical model keep him from finding the correct boundary
conditions, so he never does this calculation'. This is just one of
the basic shortcomings of using a mechanical analogy, you can not
satisfy the electric and magnetic field boundary conditions that the
final version of his equations handle properly. while some basic
effects like the interference patterns can be duplicated for both
longitudinal and transverse waves, they are not interchangeable in all
cases and trying to do so will only lead to absurd things like
electrons jumping off antennas or the need for an aether to transmit
em waves.

"K1TTT" wrote
...
On May 21, 5:48 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

In textbooks are prsented all theories and hipothesis.
It is your choose which one do you prefer: EM, photons or like sound.
S*

"Like sound " antennas are in sale for ages.
If Art's are or will be - I do not know. I am not an expert. (I have
trouble
with understanding Art's idea - he is using very sophistcated terms).
S*
show me the equations for modeling a dipole radiation pattern using

sound in free space, be sure to account for polarization.

I have something like
this:http://perg.phys.ksu.edu:80/vqmorig/...ave/Slit/vq_mw...

See also 1864
in:http://online.physics.uiuc.edu/cours.../Lecture_Notes...

Transversal wves have no sense. The equations are usefull for teaching
the
math.

right, read this carefully from that 1864 note: 'the requirements of
his mechanical model keep him from finding the correct boundary
conditions, so he never does this calculation'.

This is just one of
the basic shortcomings of using a mechanical analogy, you can not
satisfy the electric and magnetic field boundary conditions that the
final version of his equations handle properly.

In science area are scientists and teachers.
All scientists know that electricity, magnetism and gravity are the same.
Teachers know that the three must be taught seperately. Are you a student?

while some basic
effects like the interference patterns can be duplicated for both
longitudinal and transverse waves, they are not interchangeable in all
cases and trying to do so will only lead to absurd things like
electrons jumping off antennas or the need for an aether to transmit
em waves.

Maxwell's model is for the aether. But with the two substances: magnetism
and electricity.

Your antennas have the blunt tips to prevent the "jumping off ".
The alternate voltage in the ends create the oscilation of electrons in
neighbourhood .

Electrons in space are detected. So they are the aether.
Do not you hear on Dirac electron see?
S*

On May 22, 6:33*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On May 21, 5:48 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:





In textbooks are prsented all theories and hipothesis.
It is your choose which one do you prefer: EM, photons or like sound.
S*

"Like sound " antennas are in sale for ages.
If Art's are or will be - I do not know. I am not an expert. (I have
trouble
with understanding Art's idea - he is using very sophistcated terms).
S*
show me the equations for modeling a dipole radiation pattern using

sound in free space, be sure to account for polarization.

I have something like
this:http://perg.phys.ksu.edu:80/vqmorig/...ave/Slit/vq_mw...

See also 1864
in:http://online.physics.uiuc.edu/cours.../Lecture_Notes...

Transversal wves have no sense. The equations are usefull for teaching
the
math.
right, read this carefully from that 1864 note: *'the requirements of

his mechanical model keep him from finding the correct boundary
conditions, so he never does this calculation'.

This is just one of

the basic shortcomings of using a mechanical analogy, you can not
satisfy the electric and magnetic field boundary conditions that the
final version of his equations handle properly.

In science area are scientists and teachers.
All scientists know that electricity, magnetism and gravity are the same.
Teachers know that the three must be taught seperately. Are you a student?

while some basic

effects like the interference patterns can be duplicated for both
longitudinal and transverse waves, they are not interchangeable in all
cases and trying to do so will only lead to absurd things like
electrons jumping off antennas or the need for an aether to transmit
em waves.

Maxwell's model is for the aether. But with the two substances: magnetism
and electricity.

Your antennas have the blunt tips to prevent the "jumping off ".
The alternate voltage in the ends create the oscilation of electrons in
neighbourhood .

Electrons in space are detected. So they are the aether.
Do not you hear on Dirac electron see?
S*

no, i am not a student, i am an engineer by training and scientist by
title. where in maxwell's equations is there an aether?

not all antennas have blunt tips, and electron's don't just 'jump off'
an antenna.

no, just because there are electrons in space doesn't make that an
aether. there are electrons flowing in vacuum tubes, that is a
current, not an aether to carry em waves.

"K1TTT" wrote
...
On May 22, 6:33 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

In textbooks are prsented all theories and hipothesis.
It is your choose which one do you prefer: EM, photons or like
sound.
S*


I have something like
this:
http://perg.phys.ksu.edu:80/vqmorig/...ave/Slit/vq_mw...

See also 1864
in:http://online.physics.uiuc.edu/cours.../Lecture_Notes...

Transversal wves have no sense. The equations are usefull for teaching
the
math.
right, read this carefully from that 1864 note: 'the requirements of

his mechanical model keep him from finding the correct boundary
conditions, so he never does this calculation'.

This is just one of

the basic shortcomings of using a mechanical analogy, you can not
satisfy the electric and magnetic field boundary conditions that the
final version of his equations handle properly.

In science area are scientists and teachers.
All scientists know that electricity, magnetism and gravity are the same.
Teachers know that the three must be taught seperately. Are you a student?

while some basic

effects like the interference patterns can be duplicated for both
longitudinal and transverse waves, they are not interchangeable in all
cases and trying to do so will only lead to absurd things like
electrons jumping off antennas or the need for an aether to transmit
em waves.

Maxwell's model is for the aether. But with the two substances: magnetism
and electricity.

Your antennas have the blunt tips to prevent the "jumping off ".
The alternate voltage in the ends create the oscilation of electrons in
neighbourhood .

Electrons in space are detected. So they are the aether.
Do not you hear on Dirac electron see?
S*

no, i am not a student, i am an engineer by training and scientist by
title. where in maxwell's equations is there an aether?

Maxwell's equations are wrote by Heaviside (engineer).
Maxwell did the aether model and proper math.
Teachers often use big names to support his program teaching.
The same is with Ampere. His name is used to support the magnetic whirl.
For Ampere the magnetism is an illusion. It is the electric field of moving
charges.

not all antennas have blunt tips, and electron's don't just 'jump off'
an antenna.

Whe they are? The reflected wave is weaker.

no, just because there are electrons in space doesn't make that an
aether. there are electrons flowing in vacuum tubes, that is a
current, not an aether to carry em waves.

The same is in conductors. Currents are DC or AC. Maxwell's displacement
current is the AC (oscillating).
In Maxwell's aether the current in the wire oscillate in phase with the
displacement current in the aether.

Why are you the slave the only one hipothesis. The "like sound" is the
theory.

In textbooks no statements which one is correct. The all are presented.
S*

On May 22, 5:56*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
"K1TTT" ...
On May 22, 6:33 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:





In textbooks are prsented all theories and hipothesis.
It is your choose which one do you prefer: EM, photons or like
sound.
S*

I have something like
this:
http://perg.phys.ksu.edu:80/vqmorig/...ave/Slit/vq_mw....

See also 1864
in:http://online.physics.uiuc.edu/cours.../Lecture_Notes...

Transversal wves have no sense. The equations are usefull for teaching
the
math.
right, read this carefully from that 1864 note: 'the requirements of

his mechanical model keep him from finding the correct boundary
conditions, so he never does this calculation'.

This is just one of

the basic shortcomings of using a mechanical analogy, you can not
satisfy the electric and magnetic field boundary conditions that the
final version of his equations handle properly.

In science area are scientists and teachers.
All scientists know that electricity, magnetism and gravity are the same.
Teachers know that the three must be taught seperately. Are you a student?

while some basic

effects like the interference patterns can be duplicated for both
longitudinal and transverse waves, they are not interchangeable in all
cases and trying to do so will only lead to absurd things like
electrons jumping off antennas or the need for an aether to transmit
em waves.

Maxwell's model is for the aether. But with the two substances: magnetism
and electricity.

Your antennas have the blunt tips to prevent the "jumping off ".
The alternate voltage in the ends create the oscilation of electrons in
neighbourhood .

Electrons in space are detected. So they are the aether.
Do not you hear on Dirac electron see?
S*
no, i am not a student, i am an engineer by training and scientist by

title. *where in maxwell's equations is there an aether?

Maxwell's equations are wrote by Heaviside (engineer).
Maxwell did the aether model and proper math.
Teachers often use big names to support his program teaching.
*The same is with Ampere. His name is used to support the magnetic whirl.
For Ampere the magnetism is an illusion. It is the electric field of moving
charges.

not all antennas have blunt tips, and electron's don't just 'jump off'

an antenna.

Whe they are? The reflected wave is weaker.

no, just because there are electrons in space doesn't make that an

aether. *there are electrons flowing in vacuum tubes, that is a
current, not an aether to carry em waves.

The same is in conductors. Currents are DC or AC. Maxwell's displacement
current is the AC (oscillating).
In Maxwell's aether the current in the wire oscillate in phase with the
displacement current in the aether.

Why are you the slave the only one hipothesis. The "like sound" is the
theory.

In textbooks no statements which one is correct. The all are presented.
S*

only in very basic non-scientific treatments. this is getting old
again, it is obvious you have stuck a hundred years or more in the
past and will never catch up.

Szczepan Bialek wrote:
In science area are scientists and teachers.
All scientists know that electricity, magnetism and gravity are the same.
S*



I can demonstrate that electrically charged items can repel each other.
I can demonstrate how magnets can repel each other.

How do I demonstrate the repelling effect of gravity?

Uzytkownik "joe" napisal w wiadomosci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
In science area are scientists and teachers.
All scientists know that electricity, magnetism and gravity are the same.
S*



I can demonstrate that electrically charged items can repel each other.

Only can. Strong charged attracts the weaker charged.

I can demonstrate how magnets can repel each other.

The same as above.

How do I demonstrate the repelling effect of gravity?

An apple fall down but Moon dust levitates. Is it repelled?
Aepinus was sure about that. Now no doubts.
S*