On 26 mayo, 18:44, Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2010 11:33:08 -0700 (PDT), lu6etj
wrote:

"Always has been a pleasure for me to read you. I have learning very
much from your enthusiastic discussions. You made me think of things
that I never thought without your help. Thank you."

Hi Miguel,

You are welcome.

My comments (beyond your quote above) were in regard to you observing
the amount of time Walt's topic has been under discussion. *In fact,
the agony of source resistance has been painfully with us for as long
as newsgroups could support the noise bandwidth.

As dangerous as unasked-for advice is, prepare something at your bench
to measure all these contentious issues for yourself. *Force the
issues that are only being discussed rather than measured. *Discover
the roots of what used to be a "hands on" avocation. *Learn the
practical reality in relation to the academic meaning. *Discover the
first principles by making mistakes and having failures that you can
correct in front of you, instead of being assisted by an "expert."
Compare results with like-minded bench workers who can perform the
same examinations you are doing.

This is what Walt did - many times. *His bench work eclipses ALL
discussion of theory. *The irony that inhabits this is that his bench
work may even eclipse his own explanations. *Absolutely no one else
has dared to slide up to the bench to demonstrate that, however. *The
level of "critique" is much like ants scattering at the feet of a
giant.

There is a lot of math thrown against the wall to prove something. *It
may or may not be the same thing. *What it does prove is:
* * * * "Models are doomed to succeed."
This is demonstrated here at least once a week on average, and is even
held up as a hallmark of hazing, initiation, or anti-intellectual
snobbery. *Math/Models/Simulations/Theories serve many religious wars.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi Richard. thanks for your reply.

I recognize so much the Walter's work as I said in my initial post.
"Another look at reflections" was one of the my most appreciated
readings of my early days as student and Ham.
But without wishing to be flattering ("adulador" in spanish), I feel
in debt with much others works from you (all) (I do not give more
names to not commit injustice omiting anyone).
I believe you are a gifted, brilliant, intelligent and supportive Hams
sharing your knowledge and experience with us. For that, I am/we are
indebted to all of you :)

However, I believe for all reasons given above, you will be capable to
arrive to a good technical/scientific consensus about the matter. We
trust in your ability and capacity to get it.
This is very important for us because not all are capable to develop
theory from empirical working and we need your agreement to study
things that in my experience are very difficult to grasp even for
university graduates...

73

Miguel Ghezzi - LU6ETJ

On Thu, 27 May 2010 17:03:28 -0700 (PDT), lu6etj
wrote:

However, I believe for all reasons given above, you will be capable to
arrive to a good technical/scientific consensus about the matter. We
trust in your ability and capacity to get it.

Hi Miguel,

A nice sentiment, but even the most silvered authorities disagree. One
has only to look at the relativist camp vs. the quantum camp in
nuclear physics.

This is very important for us because not all are capable to develop
theory from empirical working and we need your agreement to study
things that in my experience are very difficult to grasp even for
university graduates...

Then, this will be dissappointing. University is for finding your own
way, and that does not come without regrets. There's a maxim that
applies he
"If you haven't failed, you are not trying hard enough."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On 27 mayo, 22:11, Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2010 17:03:28 -0700 (PDT), lu6etj
wrote:

However, I believe for all reasons given above, you will be capable to
arrive to a good technical/scientific consensus about the matter. We
trust in your ability and capacity to get it.

Hi Miguel,

A nice sentiment, but even the most silvered authorities disagree. One
has only to look at the relativist camp vs. the quantum camp in
nuclear physics.

This is very important for us because not all are capable to develop
theory from empirical working and we need your agreement to study
things that in my experience are very difficult to grasp even for
university graduates...

Then, this will be dissappointing. *University is for finding your own
way, and that does not come without regrets. *There's a maxim that
applies he
* * * * "If you haven't failed, you are not trying hard enough."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Yes Richard. I agree, however I said "even for graduated" ("aún para
graduados" in spanish), but this a radio Amateur group, isn't it...
Hey Richard, do not be hard with us :) your helping is important and
valuable for hundred (if not thousands) of present an future Amateurs.
Thanks again.

Miguel