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Roy Lewallen wrote in
: Adding a directional wattmeter to the mix raises an interesting issue. Roy, I suspect that the directional wattmeter is in a large part responsible to the strong committment to the view the Pf and Pr are separate tangible quantities, and that they can be dealt with independently. You will recall a raging argument some years ago about the possible range of rho, and insistence by some practical practitioners that rho could never be greater than unity because it would mean that reflected power was greater than forward power, obviously impossible, then citing experience with a directional wattmeter (calibrated for V/I being purely real) as evidence. Of course, telephony line designers know about this effect and do not have directional wattmeters to confuse their thinking. You example goes on to point out the absurdity of application of that kind of thinking. Miguel has asked why I keep quoting the term 'reflected power' etc, it is because it is a deceptive label that misrepresents the quantity. Roy has explained, and I have explained in the articles I referenced, the assumptions that underly the concept that Pf=Vf*If, and its limitations. There are many ham texts and articles that try to explain some concepts and deliver to the user a language and model that encourages extension to invalid application. Miguel, in a steady state scenario with a source at one end of a TEM line and a load at the other, the power (rate of flow of energy) at any point is given by the product of instantaneous voltage and current. This is a time varying quantity which can be integrated over time to obtain the average power. At some points on the line, the instantaneous power may be negative for some parts of the cycle, which indicates that over a cycle, some energy is exchanged to and fro across that point, but the average power will always be from source to load, and that quantity will decrease from source to load as accounted for by line loss elements, though in the general case, not purely exponentially as sometimes believed. Owen |
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