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On 1 jul, 02:42, Richard Clark wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:46:10 -0700 (PDT), lu6etj wrote: a 100 W TX power during one second to gives certain amount of energy Hi Miguel, POWER. *Please observe the distinction as appeals to 100W or "one second" have no bearing on where you seem to be fixated with quanta and energy. *Introducing distractions is not very useful. *[I can appreciate that you are not the source of the distractions.] I do not confussing wavelengh with quanta!, quantized energy it is Then quanta is a distraction, or wavelength is. What sort of human eye we use to see 80 m "light"? :) Why do you compare 80M to green light? * The more wavelength appropriate scale would be invisible in the 800nM Infra Red or in the 80nM Ultra Violet. *Green light's correlative would be in the 55.5M band (tropical SW). I did not want go out off topic, I claimed quantum mechanics do not help so much to solve TL related problems and give some reasons for that. Indeed, no doubt this [distraction] is attributable to a Texas [distracting] snake in the grass. * Quantum mechanics can give a certain perspective and sense of scale, but [distracting] amateurs shouldn't try that at home or on the Internet. I am not an expert in quantum physics and I am not going further that my elementary physic book examples. Are they wrong? well... then, I am wrong too :) PSE do not argue with me, I am innocent of charges, read the references... The Cosmic Radiation Background has been measured to about 2.76 K, where the mapping variation (fluctuations of 30 microKelvins) are within the Energy perturbation (contribution) of our Amateur transmissions. * So as to not argue, I firmly agree with you that no one is going to find any utility in any of this. *But the debate will rage on heedless. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Hello Richard: (I am not quoting with "" because I get unpredictable results with google :) ) You said: "Please observe the distinction as appeals to 100W or "one second" have no bearing on where you seem to be fixated with quanta and energy." I could not translate this sentence, (sometimes your writings are complicated for me Richard, try Tarzan style or better yet... try as you were writing to Cheeta! :) (I handed the sentence to a friend who lives in England and today said to me that have so many interpretations and did not solve my problem...) "Why do you compare 80M to green light?" Well... I like it! photons born from light, green light it is a central zone of visible light spectrum, and 80 m is my favourite ex- novice band... Look, light has a very rough "texture", light quanta is a very energetic thing, its "granularity" it is high and we easily perceive its quantic nature, 80 m energy instead has a very, very "soft" texture, 10^8 time softer than green light, and we can not measure its "granularity" with our instruments. Think of a 1000 kg car smashing against your car at 100 km/h, now think of a mosquito (10 mg) smashing against your windshield at the same speed.. well if the one green light quantum had the cinetc energy of a 1000 kg thrown against your car, 80 m quantum would have the mosquito energy! It is a really good example... you should congratulate me for that formidable approach!! no?, hi hi Physicists said that we can better perceive energy glanularity at lower temperatures and they say we have classic behaviour when hv kT, well... at 1 K, kT it is 6000 times bigger than 80 m hv, a very classic oscilator indeed!, at 293 K ambient temperature I think we can not appreciate quantized nature of RF waves!, (at least with my Bird 43) :) I have a question too, please tell me (I am very curious): why you take every opportunity to bite (sting?) my friend Cecil, ah? ;). I read carefully Cecil writings and I do not find flawings in his affirmations; usually he is very precise and scholar on this matters, sometimes he has an occasional forgivable habit, such his predilection for photons and polished glass things, but I think he has not so "distractive", usually I understand wiich is "his point" to bring another physics areas on the table... I think often we have a little stubborn too :D 73, and thank you very much for your company - Miguel - LU6ETJ |
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