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what happens to reflected energy ?
On Jul 7, 1:12*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Jul 7, 6:14*am, Keith Dysart wrote: As i pointed out, the energy levels are well above the noise. You have certainly not proved that to be true. The current is essentially DC for most of the year. Therefore, you cannot assume the proof to the question of whether the photons, which may or may not exist, are above the noise level. (Hint: assuming the proof is one of the most well known logical diversions.) What I said was that one photon at 0.5 cycles/year is NOT above the noise. Of course, there are many photons in the 50W signal previously mentioned. That is the only way to get to 50W. You are free to try to prove that I was wrong. If you window your signal for 1/2 of a year, I believe you will find it to be DC steady-state. I do not believe it is far enough removed from DC to generate any detectable photons. I will be away from my computer for a few days. In the meanwhile, I suggest that you prove that a conservation of power principle exists and a conservation of current principle exists. Until you do that, you are just blowing smoke. But it you succeed, you will no doubt receive a Nobel Prize. Ahhm, so you are proposing a new concept: a lower frequency limit where a sinusoid stops being an EM wave and becomes what? Slowly varying DC? I have never seen such a concept mentioned previously. Perhaps it will be you who deserves the Nobel prize. At what frequency, approximately, is this limit? Or, if that is not yet known, what is the lowest frequency that you are currently convinced would be an EM wave, such that the cutoff must be less than this frequency? Ballpark is good: 1 MHz 10 kHz 1 kHz 100 Hz 10 Hz 1 Hz 0.1 Hz 0.01 Hz 0.001 Hz 1 uHz 1 nHz Just to the nearest order of magnitude, from the above list, which frequency are you sure is still an EM wave rather than slowly varying DC? I am pretty sure that you would accept 10 kHz as been EM. Omega used to be around 10 kHz. How about 60 Hz? This is standard AC power in some jurisdictions. 25 Hz used to be common as AC power. 10 Hz? Is the audio on its way to the woofer an EM wave? 1 Hz? Just an order of magnitude frequency that you are sure your EM cutoff frequency will be below. And how much above the noise does a photon have to be for you to consider it to be a photon? Perhaps this will help you choose your cutoff frequency, though it seems to me you will have some difficulty when there are lots and lots of photons at this low frequency. Will this not be adequate for detection? By the way, is it possible to detect a single photon at 10 kHz, a frequency which I am pretty sure you would consider to be an EM wave. ....Keith |
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