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On 8/4/2010 2:45 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
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On 8/3/2010 11:49 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
"Michael wrote
Bill Miller calls it "the transverse current". Electrons must displace
perpendicular to the antenna surface in AC.
In insulators are the electric losses.

Voltage does not translate diresctly to heat.

In insulated antena are the transverse current and the displacement
current.

The all are facts. Should be easy to observe.


If it is easy to observe then you should be able to observe the effect
yourself.

What have you seen?


I have not any possibility or opportunity.
Years ago I asked about the frequency doubling. The second answer was:
Luxembourg efect. It was this what I was
looking for.

But next were two hundred post with word salad on me and non-linear effects.

With the "polarisation" was the same.
So I know that sooner or later appear the valuable information.

Michael wrote: "Is it to be expected in highly efficent antennas, or just
inneficient ones in which there is substantial heating already? "

Lodge has seen the glow. You use the LED and VSWR..

Now everybody from you can measure the electron emission and heat emission.
I was expected that you (radio people) know the results.
S*



Actually we do. You, who believe the 200 and 100 year old myths, don't
believe us. And then you prattle on about us not knowing of what we
speak when it is you who do not.

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"tom" wrote
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On 8/4/2010 2:45 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Now everybody from you can measure the electron emission and heat
emission.
I was expected that you (radio people) know the results.


Actually we do. You, who believe the 200 and 100 year old myths, don't
believe us. And then you prattle on about us not knowing of what we speak
when it is you who do not.


Tesla wrote in XX century that EM is a myth. I simply agree with him.
Tell me then who know better how the radio works: Tesla or you?
S*


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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Aug 4, 8:36 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).

Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?


the center part is the hottest.


If the junction with the transmission line is poor.

As you see I cannot accept your answer because it do not fit to Tesla's
radio. So the next question:

The simplest dipole is made from a transmission cable. It is enough to
stretch the wires in the oppsite directions (like arms).
The no junctions.

Which part is the hottest?:
-Transmission cable,
-The first part of the arm,
-The end of the arm.
S*


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Aug 4, 8:36 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).

Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?


the center part is the hottest.


If the junction with the transmission line is poor.


Babbling nonsense and shows you have no clue as to the meaning of voltage,
current, and power.

As you see I cannot accept your answer because it do not fit to Tesla's
radio. So the next question:


No, you can't accept the answer because it doesn't fit your demented
preconceptions.

Tesla died insane a long time ago.

The simplest dipole is made from a transmission cable. It is enough to
stretch the wires in the oppsite directions (like arms).
The no junctions.

Which part is the hottest?:
-Transmission cable,
-The first part of the arm,
-The end of the arm.
S*


The above is just babbling word salad and the question has been answered,
whether you like the answer or not.


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"tom" wrote
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On 8/4/2010 2:45 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Now everybody from you can measure the electron emission and heat
emission.
I was expected that you (radio people) know the results.


Actually we do. You, who believe the 200 and 100 year old myths, don't
believe us. And then you prattle on about us not knowing of what we speak
when it is you who do not.


Tesla wrote in XX century that EM is a myth. I simply agree with him.
Tell me then who know better how the radio works: Tesla or you?
S*


Tesla died insane a long time ago.

You babble on insanely.


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On Aug 5, 7:55*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Aug 4, 8:36 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).

Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?
the center part is the hottest.


If the junction with the transmission line is poor.

As you see I cannot accept your answer because it do not fit to Tesla's
radio. So the next question:

The simplest dipole is made from a transmission cable. It is enough to
stretch the wires in the oppsite directions (like arms).
The no junctions.

Which part is the hottest?:
-Transmission cable,
-The first part of the arm,
-The end of the arm.
S*


i know better than whatever you think you understand of tesla's work,
and also have at least 60 years of research after he died to support
it. the first part of the arm is hottest, just like the center part
of the dipole that is not heated due to a bad connection... maybe you
make bad connections to dipoles, i don't!
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On Aug 5, 7:55*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
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On Aug 4, 8:36 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).

Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?
the center part is the hottest.


If the junction with the transmission line is poor.

As you see I cannot accept your answer because it do not fit to Tesla's
radio. So the next question:

The simplest dipole is made from a transmission cable. It is enough to
stretch the wires in the oppsite directions (like arms).
The no junctions.

Which part is the hottest?:
-Transmission cable,
-The first part of the arm,
-The end of the arm.
S*


i know better than whatever you think you understand of tesla's work,
and also have at least 60 years of research after he died to support
it. the first part of the arm is hottest, just like the center part
of the dipole that is not heated due to a bad connection... maybe you
make bad connections to dipoles, i don't!
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On 8/5/2010 2:38 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
wrote
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On 8/4/2010 2:45 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Now everybody from you can measure the electron emission and heat
emission.
I was expected that you (radio people) know the results.


Actually we do. You, who believe the 200 and 100 year old myths, don't
believe us. And then you prattle on about us not knowing of what we speak
when it is you who do not.


Tesla wrote in XX century that EM is a myth. I simply agree with him.
Tell me then who know better how the radio works: Tesla or you?
S*



Me.

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On 08/05/2010 05:13 PM, tom wrote:
On 8/5/2010 2:38 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
wrote
. net...
On 8/4/2010 2:45 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Now everybody from you can measure the electron emission and heat
emission.
I was expected that you (radio people) know the results.

Actually we do. You, who believe the 200 and 100 year old myths, don't
believe us. And then you prattle on about us not knowing of what we
speak
when it is you who do not.


Tesla wrote in XX century that EM is a myth. I simply agree with him.
Tell me then who know better how the radio works: Tesla or you?
S*



Me.

*t


I hate to break in on private arguments, but Tesla was one of the
smartest people to ever walk this earth. Are You?
He invented Radio, but Marconi took the credit, using at least 6 of
Tesla's patents.
I can rant on Edison and Daguerre, but that gets long.
Some of you guys need a 'TRUE' history lesson.

Bill Baka, Listener only, since I rent these days.
Had a 1st Class Radiotelephone with Marine RADAR, P1-12-24966,
but gave it up some years back when they decided to do away with the
first class distinction.

Different numbers, but hard work to get anyway.
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On 8/5/2010 7:37 PM, Bill Baka wrote:
On 08/05/2010 05:13 PM, tom wrote:
On 8/5/2010 2:38 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
wrote
. net...
On 8/4/2010 2:45 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Now everybody from you can measure the electron emission and heat
emission.
I was expected that you (radio people) know the results.

Actually we do. You, who believe the 200 and 100 year old myths, don't
believe us. And then you prattle on about us not knowing of what we
speak
when it is you who do not.

Tesla wrote in XX century that EM is a myth. I simply agree with him.
Tell me then who know better how the radio works: Tesla or you?
S*



Me.

*t


I hate to break in on private arguments, but Tesla was one of the
smartest people to ever walk this earth. Are You?
He invented Radio, but Marconi took the credit, using at least 6 of
Tesla's patents.
I can rant on Edison and Daguerre, but that gets long.
Some of you guys need a 'TRUE' history lesson.

Bill Baka, Listener only, since I rent these days.
Had a 1st Class Radiotelephone with Marine RADAR, P1-12-24966,
but gave it up some years back when they decided to do away with the
first class distinction.

Different numbers, but hard work to get anyway.


I was specifically responding to the part where it is claimed that Tesla
said EM is a myth. I feel quite safe, thanks.

But I wouldn't have debated alternating current motors with Tesla. No sir.

*t

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