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"K1TTT" wrote
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On Jul 24, 7:35 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Normally in ALL sparks current oscillates: " The storm detector is a
radio

receiver .
"The device was invented in 1894 by Alexander Stepanovich Popov. It also
was

the first radio receiver in the world.
Ground-based and mobile detectors calculate the direction and severity of

lightning from the current location using radio direction-finding
techniques
together with an analysis of the characteristic frequencies emitted by
lightning"


you like quoting stuff off the web don't you... too bad you don't

understand the basic physics behind it. no, the spark current doesn't
have to oscillate to be picked up by a radio receiver. The short
pulse, yes even one that doesn't oscillate itself, is made up of a
large number of sine waves added together, it is those that can be
picked up by radio receivers. it is also possible at a large distance
to determine the polarity of the lightning stroke as they can be
either positive or negative strokes, that type of distinction wouldn't
be needed if they oscillated.

Electrons like oscillate. The natural oscillations go up and next decay.
Each next jump is stronger at the beginning and weaker at the end.

Lightning jumps from the higher voltage area to the lower. It means that
netto electrons flow always from cloud to earth. But before such are many
lightnings cloud to cloud. Sometimes (5%) are cloud-earth-cloud.

In the all cases the current oscillate.
S*


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On Jul 24, 4:30*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On Jul 24, 7:35 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



Normally in ALL sparks current oscillates: " The storm detector is a
radio

receiver .
"The device was invented in 1894 by Alexander Stepanovich Popov. It also
was

the first radio receiver in the world.
Ground-based and mobile detectors calculate the direction and severity of

lightning from the current location using radio direction-finding
techniques
together with an analysis of the characteristic frequencies emitted by
lightning"


you like quoting stuff off the web don't you... too bad you don't


understand the basic physics behind it. *no, the spark current doesn't
have to oscillate to be picked up by a radio receiver. *The short
pulse, yes even one that doesn't oscillate itself, is made up of a
large number of sine waves added together, it is those that can be
picked up by radio receivers. *it is also possible at a large distance
to determine the polarity of the lightning stroke as they can be
either positive or negative strokes, that type of distinction wouldn't
be needed if they oscillated.

Electrons like oscillate. The natural oscillations go up *and next decay.
Each next jump is stronger at the beginning and weaker at the end.

Lightning jumps from the higher voltage area to the lower. It means that
netto electrons flow always from cloud to earth. But before such are many
lightnings cloud to cloud. Sometimes (5%) are cloud-earth-cloud.

In the all cases the current oscillate.
S*


i agree with tom, your brain is broken.. check it.
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"K1TTT" wrote
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On Jul 24, 4:30 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

In the all cases the current oscillate.

S*


i agree with tom, your brain is broken.. check it.


Yes. I mix the oscillating with pulsating: "Years later, Lodge realized that
lightning is not an oscillatory discharge but is actually a rapidly
pulsating unidirectional (dc) discharge.[2] However, the effects of the
inductive reactance on the flow of these pulsating lightning currents is the
same as Lodge predicted for oscillatory currents" From:
http://www.antiquewireless.org/otb/lodge1102.htm
S*


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On Jul 25, 5:08*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On Jul 24, 4:30 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



In the all cases the current oscillate.

S*
i agree with tom, your brain is broken.. check it.


Yes. I mix the oscillating with pulsating: "Years later, Lodge realized that
lightning is not an oscillatory discharge but is actually a rapidly
pulsating unidirectional (dc) discharge.[2] However, the effects of the
inductive reactance on the flow of these pulsating lightning currents is the
same as Lodge predicted for oscillatory currents" From:http://www.antiquewireless.org/otb/lodge1102.htm
S*


and i suppose you have a coherer in your receiver also?
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:56:16 -0700 (PDT), K1TTT
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and i suppose you have a coherer in your receiver also?


Is this in the same sense of coherence as to Art's babble of
equilibrium?

73's
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Uzytkownik "Richard Clark" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:56:16 -0700 (PDT), K1TTT
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and i suppose you have a coherer in your receiver also?


Is this in the same sense of coherence as to Art's babble of
equilibrium?


In Art's equilibrium and Michael's "truds" are more sense than in yours
"magnetic whirls".
All radio history apply to the longitudinal electric waves (Tesla waves) in
wires and in the space.

Lodge made the long wire antennas (see Fig 2):
http://www.antiquewireless.org/otb/lodge1102.htm

The sparks are rather harmfull for transmitting. The better is a field
emission of electrons ("truds" or the "time dependent Gauss law").

You are an expert.
Does antenna radiate if it is coated with the thick good insulation?
S*


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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:26:52 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
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Does antenna radiate if it is coated with the thick good insulation?


Radiate what?

73's
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"K1TTT" wrote
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and i suppose you have a coherer in your receiver also?


Unfortunatly the coherer do not work nowdays. To much electric waves in the
rare plasma.

But the Lodge's "electrical radiation" ("time dependent Gauss Law") works.
"Lodge then added a postscript to his own paper acknowledging Hertz's work
in an extremely positive way. He concluded the postscript by saying: "The
whole subject of electrical radiation seems working itself out splendidly".
S*


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