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![]() "K1TTT" wrote ... On Jul 31, 5:34 pm, wrote: "Szczepan Bia?ek" wrote: "In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric losses since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example does not heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From: http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html "Quartz glass has a very high dielectric strength but a very low electric conductivity, even at high temperature, high voltage and high frequency, nearly without electric loss in the range of the frequencies applied. Therefore quartz glass is an excellent high temperature dielectric material." I wish he would talk to art more, the two of them are more fun when they are combining their gibberish. i guess they just don't realize that the technobabble they have come up with doesn't really mean anything useful, and little pieces of knowledge taken out of context just can't be strung back together in any order to prove something they think is right. The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop it?" Instead the answer you serve me the word salad. S* |
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On Aug 1, 9:02*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ... On Jul 31, 5:34 pm, wrote: "Szczepan Bia?ek" wrote: "In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric losses since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example does not heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From: http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html "Quartz glass has a very high dielectric strength but a very low electric conductivity, even at high temperature, high voltage and high frequency, nearly without electric loss in the range of the frequencies applied. Therefore quartz glass is an excellent high temperature dielectric material." I wish he would talk to art more, the two of them are more fun when they are combining their gibberish. i guess they just don't realize that the technobabble they have come up with doesn't really mean anything useful, and little pieces of knowledge taken out of context just can't be strung back together in any order to prove something they think is right. The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop it?" Instead the answer you serve me the word salad. S* it will not stop it, it might make it stronger or weaker depending on the loss characteristics and what you measure as the strength. |
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![]() "K1TTT" wrote ... On Aug 1, 9:02 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote: "In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric losses since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example does not heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From: http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop it?" it will not stop it, it might make it stronger or weaker depending on the loss characteristics and what you measure as the strength. And what with the "natural" insulations: the ice and the wet? Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water. They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the voltage. Is it observed? Lodge observed the glows. So there should be the heating also. Burn off an insulation needs more heat than melting/evaporating of ice/water. S* |
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
"K1TTT" wrote ... On Aug 1, 9:02 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote: "In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric losses since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example does not heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From: http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop it?" it will not stop it, it might make it stronger or weaker depending on the loss characteristics and what you measure as the strength. And what with the "natural" insulations: the ice and the wet? Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water. They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the voltage. Is it observed? Lodge observed the glows. So there should be the heating also. Burn off an insulation needs more heat than melting/evaporating of ice/water. S* Yet more babbling word salad. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
"K1TTT" wrote ... On Jul 31, 5:34 pm, wrote: "Szczepan Bia?ek" wrote: "In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric losses since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example does not heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From: http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html "Quartz glass has a very high dielectric strength but a very low electric conductivity, even at high temperature, high voltage and high frequency, nearly without electric loss in the range of the frequencies applied. Therefore quartz glass is an excellent high temperature dielectric material." I wish he would talk to art more, the two of them are more fun when they are combining their gibberish. i guess they just don't realize that the technobabble they have come up with doesn't really mean anything useful, and little pieces of knowledge taken out of context just can't be strung back together in any order to prove something they think is right. The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop it?" And the question has been answered many times now by several people. In the real and practical world, no, insulation will not stop the radiation from an RF antenna and depending on the frequency and material of the insulation some of the radiation will be aborbed as heat by the insulation. Instead the answer you serve me the word salad. S* What you post is word salad. http://medical-dictionary.thefreedic...com/word+salad -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Aug 1, 4:52*pm, wrote:
Szczepan Bialek wrote: "K1TTT" wrote .... On Jul 31, 5:34 pm, wrote: "Szczepan Bia?ek" wrote: "In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely small dielectric losses since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice, for example does not heat significantly under microwave irradiation." From: http://www.tan-delta.com/mw_heating.html "Quartz glass has a very high dielectric strength but a very low electric conductivity, even at high temperature, high voltage and high frequency, nearly without electric loss in the range of the frequencies applied. Therefore quartz glass is an excellent high temperature dielectric material." I wish he would talk to art more, the two of them are more fun when they are combining their gibberish. i guess they just don't realize that the technobabble they have come up with doesn't really mean anything useful, and little pieces of knowledge taken out of context just can't be strung back together in any order to prove something they think is right. The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop it?" And the question has been answered many times now by several people. In the real and practical world, no, insulation will not stop the radiation from an RF antenna and depending on the frequency and material of the insulation some of the radiation will be aborbed as heat by the insulation. |
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![]() Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci ... On Aug 1, 4:52 pm, wrote: Szczepan Bialek wrote: The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop it?" And the question has been answered many times now by several people. In the real and practical world, no, insulation will not stop the radiation from an RF antenna and depending on the frequency and material of the insulation some of the radiation will be aborbed as heat by the insulation. The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural" insulations: the ice and the wet? Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water. They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the voltage. Is it observed? No ice and rain in your area? S* |
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci ... On Aug 1, 4:52 pm, wrote: Szczepan Bialek wrote: The question was: "Does solid insulation makes the radiation weaker or stop it?" And the question has been answered many times now by several people. In the real and practical world, no, insulation will not stop the radiation from an RF antenna and depending on the frequency and material of the insulation some of the radiation will be aborbed as heat by the insulation. The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural" insulations: the ice and the wet? What part of the words "insulation" and "insulator" do you not understand? There is nothing special about ice or liquid water and the electrical properties of both can be easily looked up. There is nothing mystical about something that is "natural". snip remaining babble -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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![]() wrote ... Szczepan Bialek wrote: The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural" insulations: the ice and the wet? What part of the words "insulation" and "insulator" do you not understand? There is nothing special about ice or liquid water and the electrical properties of both can be easily looked up. There is nothing mystical about something that is "natural". You assume that everything "can be easily looked up". It is right for the old theories. But now is the new Art's "time dependent Gauss law" theory. At the ends of the dipole the alternate electric field is produced. There is the Lodges glow. So it is interesting if that glow is also visible on insulated wires and what is emitted from the antenna. You have opportunity to develop the Art's theory. Do not be lazy. S* |
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"Szczepan Bia?ek" wrote:
wrote ... Szczepan Bialek wrote: The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural" insulations: the ice and the wet? What part of the words "insulation" and "insulator" do you not understand? There is nothing special about ice or liquid water and the electrical properties of both can be easily looked up. There is nothing mystical about something that is "natural". You assume that everything "can be easily looked up". It is right for the old theories. But now is the new Art's "time dependent Gauss law" theory. At the ends of the dipole the alternate electric field is produced. There is the Lodges glow. So it is interesting if that glow is also visible on insulated wires and what is emitted from the antenna. You have opportunity to develop the Art's theory. Do not be lazy. S* Yet more babbling gibberish and word salad. Seek medical help. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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