"Michael Coslo" wrote
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
"Michael Coslo" wrote
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural"
insulations: the ice and the wet?

Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water.
They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the
voltage.
Is it observed?
Are you assuming that because there is high voltage, there is current
induced heating?

Bill Miller calls it "the transverse current". Electrons must displace
perpendicular to the antenna surface in AC.
In insulators are the electric losses.

Voltage does not translate diresctly to heat.

Is a quantum effect current flow, and does heat emit from the process? If
it isn't heat induced, the effect is almost certainly ionization.

No heat only in superconductors. In gold is lower than in aluminium.

In insulated antena are the transverse current and the displacement
current.

The all are facts. Should be easy to observe.

Some topics ago somebody analised the antenna temperature.
The end of the dipole should be the hottest.

Have you any observations in this subject?

Aside from analysis, has anyone measured this effect?

Of course. The antennas on animalls have temperature rise below 15C.

Is it to be expected in highly efficent antennas, or just inneficient ones
in which there is substantial heating already?

Is this assuming that the heat if given off is enough to raise the
temperature surrounding th eantenna above 0deg C?

I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).
Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?
S*

On Aug 4, 8:36*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"Michael Coslo" ...



Szczepan Bialek wrote:
*"Michael Coslo" wrote
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
The was the additional question: "And what with the "natural"
insulations: the ice and the wet?

Sometimes are on your dipoles an ice or water.
They should melt/evaporate in the places where are picks of the
voltage.
Is it observed?
Are you assuming that because there is high voltage, there is current
induced heating?

Bill Miller calls it "the transverse current". Electrons must displace
perpendicular to the antenna surface in AC.
In insulators are the electric losses.
Voltage does not translate diresctly to heat.

Is a quantum effect current flow, and does heat emit from the process? If
it isn't heat induced, the effect is almost certainly ionization.

No heat only in superconductors. In gold is lower than in aluminium.

In insulated antena are the transverse current and the displacement
current.

The all are facts. Should be easy to observe.

Some topics ago somebody analised the antenna temperature.
The end of the dipole should be the hottest.

Have you any observations in this subject?

Aside from analysis, has anyone measured this effect?

Of course. The antennas on animalls have temperature rise below 15C.



Is it to be expected in highly efficent antennas, or just inneficient ones
in which there is substantial heating already?

Is this assuming that the heat if given off is enough to raise the
temperature surrounding th eantenna above 0deg C?

I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).
Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?
S*

the center part is the hottest.

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Aug 4, 8:36 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).
Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?

the center part is the hottest.

If the junction with the transmission line is poor.

As you see I cannot accept your answer because it do not fit to Tesla's
radio. So the next question:

The simplest dipole is made from a transmission cable. It is enough to
stretch the wires in the oppsite directions (like arms).
The no junctions.

Which part is the hottest?:
-Transmission cable,
-The first part of the arm,
-The end of the arm.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Aug 4, 8:36 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).
Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?

the center part is the hottest.

If the junction with the transmission line is poor.

Babbling nonsense and shows you have no clue as to the meaning of voltage,
current, and power.

As you see I cannot accept your answer because it do not fit to Tesla's
radio. So the next question:

No, you can't accept the answer because it doesn't fit your demented
preconceptions.

Tesla died insane a long time ago.

The simplest dipole is made from a transmission cable. It is enough to
stretch the wires in the oppsite directions (like arms).
The no junctions.

Which part is the hottest?:
-Transmission cable,
-The first part of the arm,
-The end of the arm.
S*

The above is just babbling word salad and the question has been answered,
whether you like the answer or not.


--
Jim Pennino

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On Aug 5, 7:55*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Aug 4, 8:36 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).
Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?
the center part is the hottest.

If the junction with the transmission line is poor.

As you see I cannot accept your answer because it do not fit to Tesla's
radio. So the next question:

The simplest dipole is made from a transmission cable. It is enough to
stretch the wires in the oppsite directions (like arms).
The no junctions.

Which part is the hottest?:
-Transmission cable,
-The first part of the arm,
-The end of the arm.
S*

i know better than whatever you think you understand of tesla's work,
and also have at least 60 years of research after he died to support
it. the first part of the arm is hottest, just like the center part
of the dipole that is not heated due to a bad connection... maybe you
make bad connections to dipoles, i don't!

"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Aug 5, 7:55 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

The simplest dipole is made from a transmission cable. It is enough to
stretch the wires in the oppsite directions (like arms).
There no junctions.

Which part is the hottest?:
-Transmission cable,
-The first part of the arm,
-The end of the arm.
S*

i know better than whatever you think you understand of tesla's work,
and also have at least 60 years of research after he died to support
it. the first part of the arm is hottest, just like the center part
of the dipole that is not heated due to a bad connection... maybe you
make bad connections to dipoles, i don't!

Michaels answer was the best: "Aside from analysis, has anyone measured this
effect?

Is it to be expected in highly efficent antennas, or just inneficient
ones in which there is substantial heating already?

I have found that ice (hoar-frost) and rain do not disturbs radiating. But
the ice-water strongly. The ice-water is in a moment when the hoar-frost is
melting and in the pores is water (normally is air).

It is agreement with: " "In fact, most dipolar solids exhibit extremely
small dielectric losses since W tends to be extremely large. Water-free ice,
for example does not heat significantly under microwave irradiation."

I have found also that the temperature is measured for antennas for
annimals. The temperature rise must be below 15C. Of course they know the
details.

So no additional questions from me.
S*

On Aug 5, 7:55*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Aug 4, 8:36 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



I do not know. I am asking you (antenna owners).
Working antenna is hotter than at rest. Which part of the dipole is the
hottest?
the center part is the hottest.

If the junction with the transmission line is poor.

As you see I cannot accept your answer because it do not fit to Tesla's
radio. So the next question:

The simplest dipole is made from a transmission cable. It is enough to
stretch the wires in the oppsite directions (like arms).
The no junctions.

Which part is the hottest?:
-Transmission cable,
-The first part of the arm,
-The end of the arm.
S*

i know better than whatever you think you understand of tesla's work,
and also have at least 60 years of research after he died to support
it. the first part of the arm is hottest, just like the center part
of the dipole that is not heated due to a bad connection... maybe you
make bad connections to dipoles, i don't!