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On Aug 6, 7:42 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

In our textbooks is wrote "whats a pity that to teaching was choosen
Heaviside not Ampere".
But Ampere is too sophisticated for students.


So, "I feel quite safe, thanks."


maybe in your 19th century text books, mine has plenty of Ampere in

it. you must remember, those guys were working things out as they
went along, their early writings were likely replaced by later ones
that changed with improved observations that disproved what they
thought at first.

Ampere, Gauss, Weber, Maxwell are too difficult for student.

and then many things changed after the michaelson-

morley experiment dispelled the last believers in aether.

MMX proved that no motionless solid ether. Such was necessary for the
transverse waves.

so unless

you are studying things after that you are likely reading outdated and
well disproved early theories.

Now is the plasma physics: "Waves in plasmas can be classified as
electromagnetic or electrostatic according to whether or not there is an
oscillating magnetic field. Applying Faraday's law of induction to plane
waves, we find , implying that an electrostatic wave must be purely
longitudinal. An electromagnetic wave, in contrast, must have a transverse
component, but may also be partially longitudinal"

For Tesla ether is: "but sound waves in the ether, behaving in every respect
like those
in the air, except that, owing to the great elastic force and extremely
small density of the medium, their speed is that of light."


For Dirac it was an electrons see.

Now we know that in the electron see are the positive ions, So the plasma is
neutral.

As you see people step by step go ahead. Only you are standing in the
Heaviside's water (hydraulic analogy).
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On Aug 7, 7:44*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On Aug 6, 7:42 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



In our textbooks is wrote "whats a pity that to teaching was choosen
Heaviside not Ampere".
But Ampere is too sophisticated for students.


So, "I feel quite safe, thanks."

maybe in your 19th century text books, mine has plenty of Ampere in


it. *you must remember, those guys were working things out as they
went along, their early writings were likely replaced by later ones
that changed with improved observations that disproved what they
thought at first.

Ampere, Gauss, Weber, Maxwell are too difficult for student.


they are not hard they are the basis of teaching modern
electromagnetics. Any introductory electromagnetics course uses their
stuff. if they are too hard for you that explains why you have all
those strange ideas, you are stuck 100 years ago with outdated over
simplified theories that have been disproved many times.
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"K1TTT" wrote
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On Aug 7, 7:44 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:


In our textbooks is wrote "whats a pity that to teaching was choosen
Heaviside not Ampere".
But Ampere is too sophisticated for students.



Ampere, Gauss, Weber, Maxwell are too difficult for student.


they are not hard they are the basis of teaching modern

electromagnetics.

Electromagnetics is a one form of Electrodynamics. The only form in teaching
program. The others is for selfteaching.
Here are the review: http://www.df.lth.se/~snorkelf/Longitudinal/node4.html

Any introductory electromagnetics course uses their

stuff.

EM made by Heaviside is a simplification of electrodynamics. Teachers choose
it for teaching.

if they are too hard for you that explains why you have all

those strange ideas, you are stuck 100 years ago with outdated over
simplified theories that have been disproved many times.

Ampere's longitudinal force was derived experimentally. So it cannot be
disproved.
Current elements (electrons) repel each others and thanks this the radio
works.
S*


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"K1TTT" wrote
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On Aug 7, 7:44 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:


In our textbooks is wrote "whats a pity that to teaching was choosen
Heaviside not Ampere".
But Ampere is too sophisticated for students.



Ampere, Gauss, Weber, Maxwell are too difficult for student.


they are not hard they are the basis of teaching modern

electromagnetics.

Electromagnetics is a one form of Electrodynamics. The only form in teaching
program. The others is for selfteaching.


You have obviously never gone to school and have no idea what is taught
in schools.

Your posts are babbling nonsense.

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On Aug 7, 7:44*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On Aug 6, 7:42 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



In our textbooks is wrote "whats a pity that to teaching was choosen
Heaviside not Ampere".
But Ampere is too sophisticated for students.


So, "I feel quite safe, thanks."

maybe in your 19th century text books, mine has plenty of Ampere in


it. *you must remember, those guys were working things out as they
went along, their early writings were likely replaced by later ones
that changed with improved observations that disproved what they
thought at first.

Ampere, Gauss, Weber, Maxwell are too difficult for student.


they are not hard they are the basis of teaching modern
electromagnetics. Any introductory electromagnetics course uses their
stuff. if they are too hard for you that explains why you have all
those strange ideas, you are stuck 100 years ago with outdated over
simplified theories that have been disproved many times.


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Ampere, Gauss, Weber, Maxwell are too difficult for student.


A lot of college students would disagree with you.

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