On Aug 14, 12:41*am, tom wrote:
On 8/13/2010 6:47 PM, K1TTT wrote:



On Aug 13, 10:59 pm, *wrote:
On 8/13/2010 12:17 PM, Richard Clark wrote:

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:51:49 -0700, John Smith
* *wrote:

On 8/12/2010 10:20 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:06:21 -0700, John Smith
* * wrote:

My daughter just got her doctorate from Columbia University.

Frankly, I find that amazing, indeed, it implies insanity to me.

And our friend Mr. Ostrom, the computer scientist, got his AS degree
in Chico something more than a dozen years ago. *There's authority on
the topic speaking for ya'.

Oh no, another know-it-all that knows nothing. *ROFLOL

A confirmation. *;-)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

It says a lot about ability and self esteem when someone has an email
address like his and says the things he does. *My guess is that I have
made a lot more money programming than he ever will. *And in a lot more
languages. *And a lot fewer bugs.

tom
K0TAR

amen on that... lets see, 42 years programming now, 26 getting paid
just for that, languages??? pdp8 assy, focal, fortran(several
versions), basic(several variants), pascal, x86 assy, vb, ada, c, c++,
c#, vb.net, asp.net, various jcl variations, ibm360 assy, 68xxx assy,
objective c, pl-1, apl, java, javascript, vrml, html, xaml, xml,
matlab, mathcad, and probably a few others i have forgotten.

Favorite assy was 6809. *Did a lot on the Ericsson MD110 while writing
patches.

tom
K0TAR

yeah, pdp8 was 12 bit, everything in octal instead of hex. i did a
lot of 6809 stuff on a ratshack coco machine, amazing what you could
make that box do once you got inside it. had one doing fax, rtty, 4
channel music synthesizer, and running a dialup bulletin board even
before aol started sending out floppies. and i built an 8080 based
desktop computer from scratch in 1977, all of 2k of ram and a hex
keypad to load the programs from manually or from cassette tapes!

On 8/13/2010 8:07 PM, K1TTT wrote:

Favorite assy was 6809. Did a lot on the Ericsson MD110 while writing
patches.

tom
K0TAR

yeah, pdp8 was 12 bit, everything in octal instead of hex. i did a
lot of 6809 stuff on a ratshack coco machine, amazing what you could
make that box do once you got inside it. had one doing fax, rtty, 4
channel music synthesizer, and running a dialup bulletin board even
before aol started sending out floppies. and i built an 8080 based
desktop computer from scratch in 1977, all of 2k of ram and a hex
keypad to load the programs from manually or from cassette tapes!

I ran OS/9 on my CoCo. I had dual 5 1/4 inch drives, woohoo! Also got
a couple things published in Hot CoCo if you remember that mag.

OS/9 was great. Developed by Motorola as a micro based Unix type O/S.
I heard it was parallel developed with the 6809 chip with feedback
between the 2 teams. It was very fast and very small. Kicked the IBM
PC's butt with one fifth the clock speed. As you may know, the 6809 was
about as much 16 bit as it was 8, which was probably part of the reason why.

And I still have all of the bits. Haven't fired them up in maybe 15
years. I wonder if the disks will still read.

tom
K0TAR

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:59:10 -0500, tom wrote:

And our friend Mr. Ostrom, the computer scientist, got his AS degree
in Chico something more than a dozen years ago. There's authority on
the topic speaking for ya'.

Oh no, another know-it-all that knows nothing. ROFLOL

A confirmation. ;-)

Anyone else would have asked who Mr. Ostrom is - or wait for Mr.
Ostrom to indignantly reply (and he did).

It says a lot about ability and self esteem when someone has an email
address like his and says the things he does. My guess is that I have
made a lot more money programming than he ever will. And in a lot more
languages. And a lot fewer bugs.

Hi Tom,

Brett has an identity problem here. Even Art has a better self image.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Aug 14, 1:20*am, tom wrote:
On 8/13/2010 8:07 PM, K1TTT wrote:



Favorite assy was 6809. *Did a lot on the Ericsson MD110 while writing
patches.

tom
K0TAR

yeah, pdp8 was 12 bit, everything in octal instead of hex. *i did a
lot of 6809 stuff on a ratshack coco machine, amazing what you could
make that box do once you got inside it. *had one doing fax, rtty, 4
channel music synthesizer, and running a dialup bulletin board even
before aol started sending out floppies. *and i built an 8080 based
desktop computer from scratch in 1977, all of 2k of ram and a hex
keypad to load the programs from manually or from cassette tapes!

I ran OS/9 on my CoCo. *I had dual 5 1/4 inch drives, woohoo! *Also got
a couple things published in Hot CoCo if you remember that mag.

OS/9 was great. *Developed by Motorola as a micro based Unix type O/S.
I heard it was parallel developed with the 6809 chip with feedback
between the 2 teams. *It was very fast and very small. *Kicked the IBM
PC's butt with one fifth the clock speed. *As you may know, the 6809 was
about as much 16 bit as it was 8, which was probably part of the reason why.

And I still have all of the bits. *Haven't fired them up in maybe 15
years. *I wonder if the disks will still read.

tom
K0TAR

oh yes, i remember hot coco... at one point i had 4 floppies and extra
ram extension on my coco. that was when i was using it as a bbs.
finally turned it into a repeater controller in the mid 80's.

On 8/12/2010 10:20 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:06:21 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

My daughter just got her doctorate from Columbia University.

Frankly, I find that amazing, indeed, it implies insanity to me.

And our friend Mr. Ostrom, the computer scientist, got his AS degree
in Chico something more than a dozen years ago. There's authority on
the topic speaking for ya'.

To which, I reply:
All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to
real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

However, I knew you would be along, shortly, with character
assassination, high-jacking of content to other subjects, etc. My gawd
man, so predictable, return years later, all is still the same. ROFLOL

Regards,
Mr. Ostrom

On 8/13/2010 4:47 PM, K1TTT wrote:
On Aug 13, 10:59 pm, wrote:

...
It says a lot about ability and self esteem when someone has an email
address like his and says the things he does. My guess is that I have
made a lot more money programming than he ever will. And in a lot more
languages. And a lot fewer bugs.

tom
K0TAR

amen on that... lets see, 42 years programming now, 26 getting paid
just for that, languages??? pdp8 assy, focal, fortran(several
versions), basic(several variants), pascal, x86 assy, vb, ada, c, c++,
c#, vb.net, asp.net, various jcl variations, ibm360 assy, 68xxx assy,
objective c, pl-1, apl, java, javascript, vrml, html, xaml, xml,
matlab, mathcad, and probably a few others i have forgotten.

Thanks, you saved me a lot of trouble. And, when addressing a room full
of engineers from such varied programming experiences, one would use
pseudocode, a "universal language." Indeed, a thesis would utilize the
same ...

Regards,
Mr. Ostrom

On 8/13/2010 6:30 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:59:10 -0500, wrote:



Hi Tom,

Brett has an identity problem here. Even Art has a better self image.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Your material has been covered long ago ...

Regards,
Brett

On 8/13/2010 6:30 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:59:10 -0500, wrote:


Hi Tom,

Brett has an identity problem here. Even Art has a better self image.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Ohh, I forgot:
Disclaimer:
All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to
real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Regards,
Brett

On Aug 14, 6:08*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 8/13/2010 4:47 PM, K1TTT wrote:



On Aug 13, 10:59 pm, *wrote:
*...
It says a lot about ability and self esteem when someone has an email
address like his and says the things he does. *My guess is that I have
made a lot more money programming than he ever will. *And in a lot more
languages. *And a lot fewer bugs.

tom
K0TAR

amen on that... lets see, 42 years programming now, 26 getting paid
just for that, languages??? pdp8 assy, focal, fortran(several
versions), basic(several variants), pascal, x86 assy, vb, ada, c, c++,
c#, vb.net, asp.net, various jcl variations, ibm360 assy, 68xxx assy,
objective c, pl-1, apl, java, javascript, vrml, html, xaml, xml,
matlab, mathcad, and probably a few others i have forgotten.

Thanks, you saved me a lot of trouble. *And, when addressing a room full
of engineers from such varied programming experiences, one would use
pseudocode, a "universal language." *Indeed, a thesis would utilize the
same ...

Regards,
Mr. Ostrom

only if the thesis didn't care about the exact implementation, but did
depend on the algorithm. if the code were just a tool used to crunch
data, which is what it sounded like in that part of the discussion,
then the code itself may not even be part of the thesis, just the
results of crunching.

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:05:48 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

Mr. Ostrom

Of course.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC