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Recognition of the Aether presence or not
On Aug 30, 5:22*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
Since you are so familiar with the concept why not start from Earth with a progression until you get to Aether. I don't think you will get to your favorite "dark matter" For that matter explain what a "medium" is in physics terms. Art, you don't seem to understand that there is a quantum base medium to which some other medium may or may not be added. The base medium exists throughout all of universal space and is the only medium that exists in otherwise empty space. Any other added medium, e.g. air or water, is just mixed with that base medium. Please stop thinking with a concrete brain. -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com |
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Recognition of the Aether presence or not
On Aug 30, 6:06*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Aug 30, 5:22*pm, Art Unwin wrote: Since you are so familiar with the concept why not start from Earth with a progression until you get to Aether. I don't think you will get to your favorite "dark matter" For that matter explain what a "medium" is in physics terms. Art, you don't seem to understand that there is a quantum base medium to which some other medium may or may not be added. The base medium exists throughout all of universal space and is the only medium that exists in otherwise empty space. Any other added medium, e.g. air or water, is just mixed with that base medium. Please stop thinking with a concrete brain. -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com Concrete brain ! What are you referring to ? Frankly I just do not understand your response. |
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Recognition of the Aether presence or not
On Aug 30, 11:39*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:06*pm, Cecil Moore wrote: On Aug 30, 5:22*pm, Art Unwin wrote: Since you are so familiar with the concept why not start from Earth with a progression until you get to Aether. I don't think you will get to your favorite "dark matter" For that matter explain what a "medium" is in physics terms. Art, you don't seem to understand that there is a quantum base medium to which some other medium may or may not be added. The base medium exists throughout all of universal space and is the only medium that exists in otherwise empty space. Any other added medium, e.g. air or water, is just mixed with that base medium. Please stop thinking with a concrete brain. -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com Concrete brain ! What are you referring to ? Frankly I just do not understand your response. he's telling you that you are right but you are just so smart that you can't understand your own solution! |
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Recognition of the Aether presence or not
On 8/30/2010 4:39 PM, Art Unwin wrote:
... Simply put, the ether has been in existence before God ... well, wait, they may cause a big debate ... change that to, "... in existence since God." ROFLOL Regards, JS |
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Recognition of the Aether presence or not
On Aug 30, 6:39*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
Frankly I just do not understand your response. Outside of the space-volume of the universe, there is no structure. Inside the space-volume of the universe, there is an invisible quantum structure everywhere. You live and function within that structure without being aware of it. That quantum structure may or may not contain visible matter/energy which can modify the electromagnetic characteristics of the medium, but does NOT replace the quantum structure as you appear to think. The quantum structure is the container of everything that exists. Nothing exists outside of the container (unless there are more unconnected containers somewhere else). Air, water, or earth does not displace the quantum structure but gravity can warp it, e.g. black holes. Everything that exists in our universe is contained within the invisible quantum structure which appears to consist of dark matter interacting with dark energy. It is believed that the pressure of the dark energy is overwhelming gravity and is causing the expansion of the universe. -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com |
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Recognition of the Aether presence or not
On Aug 31, 6:50*am, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:39*pm, Art Unwin wrote: Frankly I just do not understand your response. Outside of the space-volume of the universe, there is no structure. Inside the space-volume of the universe, there is an invisible quantum structure everywhere. You live and function within that structure without being aware of it. That quantum structure may or may not contain visible matter/energy which can modify the electromagnetic characteristics of the medium, but does NOT replace the quantum structure as you appear to think. The quantum structure is the container of everything that exists. Nothing exists outside of the container (unless there are more unconnected containers somewhere else). Air, water, or earth does not displace the quantum structure but gravity can warp it, e.g. black holes. Everything that exists in our universe is contained within the invisible quantum structure which appears to consist of dark matter interacting with dark energy. It is believed that the pressure of the dark energy is overwhelming gravity and is causing the expansion of the universe. -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com Cecil as I stated before a electron can travel thru two mediums OR along the path between the two mediums. The presence of surface wave of propagation points to another medium whether it be between Earth and the atmosphere OR the atmosphere is a medium itself. It is because of this electron travel along the surface of Earth that scientists come to the conclusion that the atmosphere is a medium which they name. This is not accepted by mainstream but to be fair mainstream has not named or explained the medium that allowed for over the surface electron travel. From my point of view the "missing" medium is a carpet of free electrons that are bound in a skin as seen on surface tension on water and it is this skin or carpet upon Earth is the medium that explains the surface travel of electrons, a missing medium that satisfies both sides of the puzzle. Regards Art |
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Recognition of the Aether presence or not
On 8/31/2010 6:36 AM, Art Unwin wrote:
... Cecil as I stated before a electron can travel thru two mediums OR along the path between the two mediums. The presence of surface wave of propagation points to another medium whether it be between Earth and the atmosphere OR the atmosphere is a medium itself. It is because of this electron travel along the surface of Earth that scientists come to the conclusion that the atmosphere is a medium which they name. This is not accepted by mainstream but to be fair mainstream has not named or explained the medium that allowed for over the surface electron travel. From my point of view the "missing" medium is a carpet of free electrons that are bound in a skin as seen on surface tension on water and it is this skin or carpet upon Earth is the medium that explains the surface travel of electrons, a missing medium that satisfies both sides of the puzzle. Regards Art By golly, I believe you are getting it ... except for you focus on "a surface." We have a medium to test all this with, which is quite suitable. Water; No surface is needed to produce sound within a body of water, itself, water serving as the example of "ether." A very strong, varying, magnetic field, in the audio range, can work upon the slightly magnetic atoms producing the sound. In passing, "pumps", which may someday propel vessels, can also use this effect to "pump" water though a coil and propel the vessel. Ether should be able to be manipulated in a like manner ... now, unless you show up upon my doorstep with a workable model of an "ether antenna", this all has, and will remain, of little use. However, I think you are just the man to do it, Art. wink Regards, JS |
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Recognition of the Aether presence or not
On Aug 31, 8:54*am, John Smith wrote:
On 8/31/2010 6:36 AM, Art Unwin wrote: * ... * Cecil as I stated before a electron can travel thru two mediums OR along the path between the two mediums. The presence of surface wave of propagation points to another medium whether it be between Earth and the atmosphere OR the atmosphere is a medium itself. It is because of this electron travel along the surface of Earth that scientists come to the conclusion that the atmosphere is a medium which they name. This is not accepted by mainstream but to be fair mainstream has not named or explained the medium that allowed for over the surface electron travel. *From my point of view the "missing" medium is a carpet of free electrons that are bound in a skin as seen on surface tension on water and it is this skin or carpet upon Earth is the medium that explains the surface travel of electrons, a missing medium that satisfies both sides of the puzzle. Regards Art By golly, I believe you are getting it ... except for you focus on "a surface." *We have a medium to test all this with, which is quite suitable. *Water; *No surface is needed to produce sound within a body of water, itself, water serving as the example of "ether." *A very strong, varying, magnetic field, in the audio range, can work upon the slightly magnetic atoms producing the sound. *In passing, "pumps", which may someday propel vessels, can also use this effect to "pump" water though a coil and propel the vessel. *Ether should be able to be manipulated in a like manner ... now, unless you show up upon my doorstep with a workable model of an "ether antenna", this all has, and will remain, of little use. *However, I think you are just the man to do it, Art. *wink Regards, JS John Cecils interpretation of a double helix was what is termed as the secret of life with is the combination of two vectors direct an circular or spin which generated the double helix. This can also be explained as the secret of everything in the scientific world whether it be the two vectors created by the BIG BANG or the two vectors of gravity and rotation and on to the two vectors as an electron travels between two mediums. All this was proposed centuries ago purely by observations. Think of a piece of caramel being moved outwards along its length, necking occures and bingo you have the other vector pushing in from the sides. When Newton stated every action has an equal and opposite reaction he was not thinking of a singular force or vectors but of two. The two vectors can be seen in action when caramel is being pulled. You have an equal force as a reaction to the initial pull and you also have another vector generated on the other or opposite side of the caramel that creates the necking or thinning where opposite in OLDE ENGLISH terms was a 90 degree change in direction and not one that is actually opposing the initial vector. This approach is the same as that of Einstein with the STANDARD MODEL which eventually comes down to just the combined action of the said two vectors which again supports the action of a ground wave between two mediums. Maxwell pointed to the same thing when he recognized that is law on radiation required a second vector( displacement current) which finally put the mathematical expression into the "must have" requirement of EQUILIBRIUM. Now both supporters of the AETHER and its deniers can be satisfied by labeling the particle carpet as the missing medium, which by the way was identified by Gauss with his laws on static particles. So Cecil is quite correct on his explanation of quantum soup which in itself is not a medium as required by the two vector system but by the identification of the missing medium which is the carpet layer from the Galaxy resting as a mantel upon Earth. Regards Art |
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Recognition of the Aether presence or not
On 8/31/2010 7:29 AM, Art Unwin wrote:
John ... Cecils interpretation of a double helix was what is termed as the secret of life with is the combination ... Regards Art Yes, it was a nice description ... Uh, huh, so that is what "... created man in Gods' image ..." means, the double helix! I'll be looking for one descending from Heaven soon! Keep up the good work, stiff lip and all that, regards, JS |
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Recognition of the Aether presence or not
On Aug 31, 8:54*am, John Smith wrote:
On 8/31/2010 6:36 AM, Art Unwin wrote: * ... * Cecil as I stated before a electron can travel thru two mediums OR along the path between the two mediums. The presence of surface wave of propagation points to another medium whether it be between Earth and the atmosphere OR the atmosphere is a medium itself. It is because of this electron travel along the surface of Earth that scientists come to the conclusion that the atmosphere is a medium which they name. This is not accepted by mainstream but to be fair mainstream has not named or explained the medium that allowed for over the surface electron travel. *From my point of view the "missing" medium is a carpet of free electrons that are bound in a skin as seen on surface tension on water and it is this skin or carpet upon Earth is the medium that explains the surface travel of electrons, a missing medium that satisfies both sides of the puzzle. Regards Art By golly, I believe you are getting it ... except for you focus on "a surface." *We have a medium to test all this with, which is quite suitable. *Water; *No surface is needed to produce sound within a body of water, itself, water serving as the example of "ether." *A very strong, varying, magnetic field, in the audio range, can work upon the slightly magnetic atoms producing the sound. *In passing, "pumps", which may someday propel vessels, can also use this effect to "pump" water though a coil and propel the vessel. *Ether should be able to be manipulated in a like manner ... now, unless you show up upon my doorstep with a workable model of an "ether antenna", this all has, and will remain, of little use. *However, I think you are just the man to do it, Art. *wink Regards, JS John We now come down to the question as to whether the two vector explanation is of any use by applying it to antennas. Let me come back to the double helix or the "genome" of life Science views a coil as a load with respect to antennas or a dummy load again with respect to radiators. We all know that a coil can be made where it is totally resistive and completly absent of reactive forces because with the about turn of direction of current flow stops the formation of both capacitive and inductive vectors. When the current flows thru the coil tradition points to science as seeing this as the metallic resistance of say aluminum. This is false in that the resistance seen is the resistance to the skin depth anomally created by the foot hold of a external magnetic field. In this case there cannot be an external magnetic field ie no reactances and therefore no skin resistance. Now it is this resistance that was keeping current flow from rising to the SURFACE of the radiator such that the radiator is not now the path that the current takes which is now BETWEEN the two mediums such that its two vectors direct current and displacement current can devote itself to purely producing radiation by ejection of particles with spin. So in other words the external magnetic field by creating skin depth is the worst enemy of radiation which is the creation of a wastefull friction component. Removing that magnetic field is the same as what superconductors do except in radiation current flow by passes the subject mass regardess of its resident friction where as a superconductor actually reduces the mass friction instead of by passing it. When applying this to computor program the radiation patter evolves into two separate patterns merged into one wher the axis reflects the two vectors of gravity and rotation. As a side note the radiatin member is never totally devoid of resistance ans it now takes on a vibratory action from the levitating vector on its surface, so ohms law stays intact by virtue of the change over to pendulum mathermatics Regards Art Unwin.....KB9MZ....xg |
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