One of the most perplexing aurguements in the history of Physics is
the supposed existence of the Aether. Or in other words
Aether is has to be considered as a media.
In radio terms it can be stated that communication can be carried by a
surface wave only if it travels along the line of different media
which in physics is unshakable. Thus many physists argued that
air itself must be considered as a medium in that surface radio waves
certainly exist and thus the case against the existance of an Aether
has not yet been proven, as the question of the two mediums involved
have yet to be identified.
As I have stated earlier the expansion of the laws of static particles
show that particles from the Sun settle upon Earth's diamagnetic
surfaces. Thus providing the medium that purists have searched for
which now can replace the undeniable required presence of a medium
instead of the former "Aether". Classical physics of Newton, Einstein
and others had the answers all along with the Gaussian law of Statics!
Regards
Art
notion of an Aether.

On Aug 28, 6:06*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
One of the most perplexing aurguements in the history of Physics is
the supposed existence of the *Aether. Or in other words
Aether is has to be considered as a media.
In radio terms it can be stated that communication can be carried by a
surface wave only if it travels along the line of different media
which in physics is unshakable. Thus many physists argued that
air itself *must be considered as a medium in that surface radio waves
certainly exist and thus the case against the existance of an Aether
has not yet been proven, as the question of the two mediums involved
have yet to be identified.
As I have stated earlier the expansion of the laws of static particles
show that particles from the Sun settle upon Earth's diamagnetic
surfaces. Thus providing the medium that purists have searched for
which now can replace the undeniable required presence of a medium
instead of the former "Aether". Classical physics of Newton, Einstein
and others had the answers all along with the Gaussian law of Statics!
Regards
Art
notion of an Aether.

geez, all this time to think of something interesting and all you can
come up with is an outdated aether argument crossed with your magical
levitating diamagnetic neutrinos??? you could at least have tried to
latch onto this one and do something more original:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80...g-with-matter/

On Aug 28, 1:06*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
One of the most perplexing aurguements in the history of Physics is
the supposed existence of the *Aether.

It has been proven that "empty space" is indeed not empty and consists
of quantum particles that wink in and out of existence. Aether does
exist as a sort of quantum soup, just not in the limited form that was
earlier conceived in the past before quantum physics. The Casimir
effect is a manifestation of the quantum soup that exists in "empty
space". Some physicists think that's where the dark energy is hiding.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

On Aug 28, 1:33*pm, K1TTT wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:06*pm, Art Unwin wrote:



One of the most perplexing aurguements in the history of Physics is
the supposed existence of the *Aether. Or in other words
Aether is has to be considered as a media.
In radio terms it can be stated that communication can be carried by a
surface wave only if it travels along the line of different media
which in physics is unshakable. Thus many physists argued that
air itself *must be considered as a medium in that surface radio waves
certainly exist and thus the case against the existance of an Aether
has not yet been proven, as the question of the two mediums involved
have yet to be identified.
As I have stated earlier the expansion of the laws of static particles
show that particles from the Sun settle upon Earth's diamagnetic
surfaces. Thus providing the medium that purists have searched for
which now can replace the undeniable required presence of a medium
instead of the former "Aether". Classical physics of Newton, Einstein
and others had the answers all along with the Gaussian law of Statics!
Regards
Art
notion of an Aether.

geez, all this time to think of something interesting and all you can
come up with is an outdated aether argument crossed with your magical
levitating diamagnetic neutrinos??? *you could at least have tried to
latch onto this one and do something more original:http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80...ientist-smackd...

The article is about disagreements between scientists and not
agreement, therefore nothing is conclusive. What is conclusive that
making a static field dynamic shows the presence of particles in
Maxwell's equations on radiation.If you do not have the knowledge to
refute that fact then you have at your disposal the Physics Forum
where the adjudicators are generally professors in the field who can
provide you with the answers that you cannot find out for yourself.
Intuition alone does not get the job done so go to the experts to
verify your approach to physics. Classical physics clearly state that
particles from the Sun is incorporated in the art of radiation via the
extension to the laws of Static. If you want to over rule the
professors knowledge of physics then do it directly on their forum.

On 8/28/2010 11:06 AM, Art Unwin wrote:
...
As I have stated earlier the expansion of the laws of static particles
show that particles from the Sun settle upon Earth's diamagnetic
surfaces. Thus providing the medium that purists have searched for
which now can replace the undeniable required presence of a medium
instead of the former "Aether". Classical physics of Newton, Einstein
and others had the answers all along with the Gaussian law of Statics!
Regards
Art
notion of an Aether.

.... and that, of course, explains deep space propagation! Must have
been sleeping though that one ...

Regards,
JS

On 8/28/2010 12:32 PM, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:06 pm, Art wrote:
One of the most perplexing aurguements in the history of Physics is
the supposed existence of the Aether.

It has been proven that "empty space" is indeed not empty and consists
of quantum particles that wink in and out of existence....
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Well, "ether particles" would certainly be one suitable explanation ...
and, I must say, the word aether is growing on me, you suppose it is the
way art pronounces it? grin

Regards,
JS

On Aug 28, 2:32*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:06*pm, Art Unwin wrote:

One of the most perplexing aurguements in the history of Physics is
the supposed existence of the *Aether.

It has been proven that "empty space" is indeed not empty and consists
of quantum particles that wink in and out of existence. Aether does
exist as a sort of quantum soup, just not in the limited form that was
earlier conceived in the past before quantum physics. The Casimir
effect is a manifestation of the quantum soup that exists in "empty
space". Some physicists think that's where the dark energy is hiding.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Whoa!You are talking apples and oranges. The two mediums discussed is
in actuality mass and particles where as it was considered as mass and
the Aether. I am certainly aware of the term quantum soup outside of
the Earths confines!
The two mediums of a radiator and particles is what provides for
ground wave and connected to
propagation. I don't think the scientists of the day were considering
propagation in outer space but I am willing to read any article that
supports your position
There are many positions and counter positions on the subject given by
most of the masters of the day.
Art

On 8/28/2010 1:26 PM, Art Unwin wrote:

...
There are many positions and counter positions on the subject given by
most of the masters of the day.
Art

Oh Art, this can be very taxing, but there is gravity, the method of the
propagation of emf, and then there is dark matter, as Cecil threw in ...
these are some of the last frontiers where discoveries will be finally
be found.

I interpret Einsteins remarks on ether to be an admission that his
theory of gravity would become undefined, if not for the "gravitational
ether", not his exact words--his theory involving gravity depends up an
ether. An ether composed of quantum particles would begin a solid
discovery of how rf/light can behave both as particles and as waves.
Gravity affects and can bend radio waves, obviously radio waves should
have some effect on gravity, at sufficient energy levels. Dark mass
appears to have an effect on gravity ... so in there is also a
suggestion that these all have some profound form of relationship ...
and it is here that "guesses", predictions, statements of bizarre
magnitude and theories can abound ... I believe I can see your house,
where you reside, down the street, just over there ... glad to see ya'
still kickin', as long as you ain't breathing dirt, it is a good day.

Regards,
JS

On Aug 28, 8:26*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
On Aug 28, 2:32*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:

On Aug 28, 1:06*pm, Art Unwin wrote:

One of the most perplexing aurguements in the history of Physics is
the supposed existence of the *Aether.

It has been proven that "empty space" is indeed not empty and consists
of quantum particles that wink in and out of existence. Aether does
exist as a sort of quantum soup, just not in the limited form that was
earlier conceived in the past before quantum physics. The Casimir
effect is a manifestation of the quantum soup that exists in "empty
space". Some physicists think that's where the dark energy is hiding.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Whoa!You are talking apples and oranges. The two mediums discussed is
in actuality mass and particles where as it was considered as mass and
the Aether. I am certainly aware of the term quantum soup outside of
the Earths confines!
The two mediums of a radiator and particles is what provides for
ground wave and connected to
propagation. I don't think the scientists of the day were considering
propagation in outer space but I am willing to read any article that
supports your position
There are many positions and counter positions on the subject given by
most of the masters of the day.
Art

you should really talk with mr.b... he likes those old time scientists
and the stuff they wrote before all the real experiments disproved
aether and magnetic vortices and all that other stuff that you seem to
love. please write something new and funny about the magical
levitating diamagnetic neutrinos that explain how my ferromagnetic
antenna radiates.

On Aug 28, 6:19*pm, K1TTT wrote:
On Aug 28, 8:26*pm, Art Unwin wrote:



On Aug 28, 2:32*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:

On Aug 28, 1:06*pm, Art Unwin wrote:

One of the most perplexing aurguements in the history of Physics is
the supposed existence of the *Aether.

It has been proven that "empty space" is indeed not empty and consists
of quantum particles that wink in and out of existence. Aether does
exist as a sort of quantum soup, just not in the limited form that was
earlier conceived in the past before quantum physics. The Casimir
effect is a manifestation of the quantum soup that exists in "empty
space". Some physicists think that's where the dark energy is hiding.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Whoa!You are talking apples and oranges. The two mediums discussed is
in actuality mass and particles where as it was considered as mass and
the Aether. I am certainly aware of the term quantum soup outside of
the Earths confines!
The two mediums of a radiator and particles is what provides for
ground wave and connected to
propagation. I don't think the scientists of the day were considering
propagation in outer space but I am willing to read any article that
supports your position
There are many positions and counter positions on the subject given by
most of the masters of the day.
Art

you should really talk with mr.b... he likes those old time scientists
and the stuff they wrote before all the real experiments disproved
aether and magnetic vortices and all that other stuff that you seem to
love. *please write something new and funny about the magical
levitating diamagnetic neutrinos that explain how my ferromagnetic
antenna radiates.

Every time you put pen to paper it is painfully evident that you are
totally lacking in the subject of physics. A ferromagnetic antenna
will certainly radiate but it totally swamps the Meissner effect
common with diamagnetic materials. They certainly do not duplicate in
actions with respect to radiation.
Most hams build their antennas with diamagnetic materials like copper
and aluminum as they do not portray the hysteresis effect common with
ferromagnetic materials. As for diamagnetic materials that demonstrate
levitation you can buy these on E bay or at Edmonds scientific if you
have any doubts about their authenticity.