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After Jesus "died" he appeared three days later where he spoke to Mary
Madelyn. He had to caution Mary not to touch him as he had not yet prepared himself to levitate into the heavens. This was akin to changing himself into water such as with a frog that scientists have shown to be levitated and life has shown the appearance of fish and frogs in roads miles away from ponds after a storm. Something to ponder over. |
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On 8/31/2010 10:32 AM, Art Unwin wrote:
After Jesus "died" he appeared three days later where he spoke to Mary Madelyn. He had to caution Mary not to touch him as he had not yet prepared himself to levitate into the heavens. This was akin to changing himself into water such as with a frog that scientists have shown to be levitated and life has shown the appearance of fish and frogs in roads miles away from ponds after a storm. Something to ponder over. Uh, Art, it is called a waterspout and/or tornado. It sucks 'em up at one point and drops 'em at another, can't blame the aliens this time! Regards, JS |
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On 8/31/2010 10:32 AM, Art Unwin wrote:
... Paging my Mr. Art Artstein, Mr. Art Artstein, paging Mr. Art Artstein .... chuckle Regards, JS |
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On Aug 31, 3:06*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 8/31/2010 10:32 AM, Art Unwin wrote: * ... Paging my Mr. Art Artstein, Mr. Art Artstein, paging Mr. Art Artstein ... chuckle Regards, JS No John I am not jewish! But there are other instances as per the parting or updraft of the Red sea which later came back down to reseal the path. I am not making this up as it was written well before I came along but there is some similarity even tho I cannot explain it. One thing that was also written at the time that only a few jewish people continued on the journey while the majority stayed enjoying their former bad ways. These were not receipients of the "promise" so what is going to happen to them when they lose out on judgement day? |
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On Aug 31, 2:54*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 8/31/2010 10:32 AM, Art Unwin wrote: After Jesus "died" he appeared three days later where he spoke to Mary Madelyn. He had to caution Mary not to touch him as he had not yet prepared himself to levitate into the heavens. This was akin to changing himself into water such as with a frog that scientists have shown to be levitated and life has shown the appearance of fish and frogs in roads miles away from ponds after a storm. Something to ponder over. Uh, Art, it is called a waterspout and/or tornado. *It sucks 'em up at one point and drops 'em at another, can't blame the aliens this time! Regards, JS No you can't blame aliens but you can blame those two vectors that demonstrated their strength. grin |
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On 8/31/2010 1:54 PM, Art Unwin wrote:
... No John I am not jewish! But there are other instances as per the parting or updraft of the Red sea which later came back down to reseal the path. I am not making this up as it was written well before I came along but there is some similarity even tho I cannot explain it. One thing that was also written at the time that only a few jewish people continued on the journey while the majority stayed enjoying their former bad ways. These were not receipients of the "promise" so what is going to happen to them when they lose out on judgement day? OK. Since the real Art Artstein has been missing for quite sometime, and has been replaced with a cleaver alien clone ... it leaves me no choice other than to involve the authorities in this. Will the real Art Artstein please stand up? Else, you give me no recourse! straight faced Regards, JS (thinks to himself: "The real Art Artstein is mooselum, isn't he?) |
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On Aug 31, 3:54*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
But there are other instances as per the parting or updraft of the Red sea which later came back down to reseal the path. Art, google "Reed Sea" and see what difference one mistranslated letter can make. -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com |
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On Aug 31, 6:30*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Aug 31, 3:54*pm, Art Unwin wrote: But there are other instances as per the parting or updraft of the Red sea which later came back down to reseal the path. Art, google "Reed Sea" and see what difference one mistranslated letter can make. -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com He should google Mary Magdalene while he's at it. |
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On 8/31/2010 10:32 AM, Art Unwin wrote:
After Jesus "died" he appeared three days later where he spoke to Mary Madelyn. He had to caution Mary not to touch him as he had not yet prepared himself to levitate into the heavens. This was akin to changing himself into water such as with a frog that scientists have shown to be levitated and life has shown the appearance of fish and frogs in roads miles away from ponds after a storm. Something to ponder over. What is it? Am I the only one here to realize that Art Artstein is really John Hutchison in disguise? That his tesla coils bend reality and turn steel to rubber? I was just joking around about him being a mooselum ... or that he is zealot in the following of moo-ham-ad ... Regards, JS |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:54:01 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote: No John I am not jewish! Thank God. For a moment, I was worried. One thing that was also written at the time that only a few jewish people continued on the journey while the majority stayed enjoying their former bad ways. Sorta. The old testament says (somewhere) that about 600,000 left Egypt. No clue how many followed Moses into the desert as most just wanted to leave the scene of the disaster (10 plagues). 40 years later, about 25,000 entered the promised land with Joshua. Most of the 40 years was probably spend building and training an army, so there must have been a major reduction in followers in the desert. The actual numbers are highly debatable. As for "bad ways", that's also debatable. For example, what's the difference between a bribe and a commission? The only difference is when it's paid. A bribe in advance, a commission after. In most middle east cultures, bribes are necessary to secure ones profit. Anyone taking a commission is usually deemed a fool. Yet, western culture defines taking a bribe as evil, and a commission as desirable. So, who's acting badly, and from who's perspective? These were not receipients of the "promise" so what is going to happen to them when they lose out on judgement day? Same as what we do today.... bribe the judge and pay off his cronies. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Sep 2, 12:34*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:54:01 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin wrote: No John I am not jewish! Thank God. *For a moment, I was worried. One thing that was also written at the time that only a few jewish people continued on the journey while the majority stayed enjoying their former bad ways. Sorta. *The old testament says (somewhere) that about 600,000 left Egypt. *No clue how many followed Moses into the desert as most just wanted to leave the scene of the disaster (10 plagues). *40 years later, about 25,000 entered the promised land with Joshua. *Most of the 40 years was probably spend building and training an army, so there must have been a major reduction in followers in the desert. The actual numbers are highly debatable. As for "bad ways", that's also debatable. *For example, what's the difference between a bribe and a commission? *The only difference is when it's paid. *A bribe in advance, a commission after. *In most middle east cultures, bribes are necessary to secure ones profit. Anyone taking a commission is usually deemed a fool. *Yet, western culture defines taking a bribe as evil, and a commission as desirable. So, who's acting badly, and from who's perspective? These were not receipients of the "promise" so what is going to happen to them when they lose out on judgement day? Same as what we do today.... bribe the judge and pay off his cronies. -- Jeff Liebermann * * 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558 Hmmm Then it would appear that the promised land was only given to less than 10% of those that left in the first place! Maybe Gaza will be large enough for those that followed thru. Grin. I would imagine that decimation could avoid that strip of coastal area. Maybe agreement will come after all, but not this or the next time around as Israel has not stopped gaining ground. |
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On Sep 2, 12:34*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:54:01 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin wrote: No John I am not jewish! Thank God. *For a moment, I was worried. One thing that was also written at the time that only a few jewish people continued on the journey while the majority stayed enjoying their former bad ways. Sorta. *The old testament says (somewhere) that about 600,000 left Egypt. *No clue how many followed Moses into the desert as most just wanted to leave the scene of the disaster (10 plagues). *40 years later, about 25,000 entered the promised land with Joshua. *Most of the 40 years was probably spend building and training an army, so there must have been a major reduction in followers in the desert. The actual numbers are highly debatable. As for "bad ways", that's also debatable. *For example, what's the difference between a bribe and a commission? *The only difference is when it's paid. *A bribe in advance, a commission after. *In most middle east cultures, bribes are necessary to secure ones profit. Anyone taking a commission is usually deemed a fool. *Yet, western culture defines taking a bribe as evil, and a commission as desirable. So, who's acting badly, and from who's perspective? These were not receipients of the "promise" so what is going to happen to them when they lose out on judgement day? Same as what we do today.... bribe the judge and pay off his cronies. -- Jeff Liebermann * * 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558 Profit! Well it wasn't money which is the pursuit of the day. An old woman gave up her only coin, a farthing, and got the jackpot ! |
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:21:08 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote: Profit! Well it wasn't money which is the pursuit of the day. An old woman gave up her only coin, a farthing, and got the jackpot ! Well, it does take a bit more than a farthing, but it's still possible: "Israel's biggest lottery winner claims prize after 4 months" http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-s-biggest-lottery-winner-claims-prize-after-4-months-1.284172 After crossing the Red Sea, the next step was to setup an antenna and make some contacts on the other side, which would certainly have qualified as a new country. Not having any wire antennas handy, we used the next best thing: "Sea Water Antenna" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIZUhu21sQ -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:14:57 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote: Then it would appear that the promised land was only given to less than 10% of those that left in the first place! We claimed abandonment by the other interested parties. While enforcing a 3000 year old land claim might seem a bit odd, we do have some of the best documented evidence (i.e. the Old and New Testaments) which have stood up in the courts for at least 2000 years. The only problems have been when deconstructionist academics and movie producers attempt to reverse engineer the intent of God. This might have succeeded had they been successful at issuing a subpoena asking for explanations and corroboration of the land claim. Maybe Gaza will be large enough for those that followed thru. Grin. I would imagine that decimation could avoid that strip of coastal area. Decimation means 1 out of 10. That's been deemed politically inexpedient after the Romans tried it, and found it useless. These days, we just build a wall down the center of the country. Maybe agreement will come after all, but not this or the next time around as Israel has not stopped gaining ground. Agreement has always been easy. Keeping the agreements has been the main problem. It isn't just the Arabs. We have the same problem. Get 10 Jews together to form a minion, and instead of agreement, we have an argument. It's a miracle that we've gotten this far, being so screwed up, but that's just evidence that God is on our side. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On 9/2/2010 1:18 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
... After crossing the Red Sea, the next step was to setup an antenna and make some contacts on the other side, which would certainly have qualified as a new country. Not having any wire antennas handy, we used the next best thing: "Sea Water Antenna" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIZUhu21sQ The losses and problems with that will keep a tinkerer quite happy for a lifetime. Reminds me of an old antenna I seen which used a thick quartz tube and was filled to appropriate heights to tune resonance. Was very interesting, and a fun toy for the owner, but I am waiting to see it in mass production. Regards, JS |
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On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:30:30 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 9/2/2010 1:18 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: ... After crossing the Red Sea, the next step was to setup an antenna and make some contacts on the other side, which would certainly have qualified as a new country. Not having any wire antennas handy, we used the next best thing: "Sea Water Antenna" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIZUhu21sQ The losses and problems with that will keep a tinkerer quite happy for a lifetime. Reminds me of an old antenna I seen which used a thick quartz tube and was filled to appropriate heights to tune resonance. Was very interesting, and a fun toy for the owner, but I am waiting to see it in mass production. For some, no proof in possible, even with YouTube videos. Let's pretend you just marched across the Red Sea, on sea urchin and coral encrusted sandals. You follow Moses until you get to Mt Sinai. The boss then disappears up the mountain, and comes back with some rather draconian rules and regulations. He then grabs all the metal he can find and uses it to build the Ark of the Covenant, which was suppose to be some kind of transmitter to talk to God or perhaps aliens in their flying saucers. With all the metal used, what do you use for an antenna? Of course, salt water.... and you wonder why part of the Passover ritual is dipping just about everything into salt water. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant God was said to have communicated with Moses "from between the two cherubim" on the Ark's cover (Exodus 25:22). One theory has it that the Ark was an arc lamp, which is close enough to a spark gap xmitter to qualify as a transmitter: http://einhornpress.com/holyark.aspx Ok, let's forget the salt water antenna. Maybe an inflatable antenna would be more practical. An inflatable antenna certainly would be more useful for getting cell phone coverage for the multitudes in the middle of the desert: http://www.youtube.com/user/ltaprojects#p/u http://towers.ltaprojects.com/LTA_Towers/LTA_Tower_Home.html (formerly Bosch Aerospace). Can you hear me now? -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Aug 31, 10:32*am, Art Unwin wrote:
After Jesus "died" he appeared three days later where he spoke to Mary Madelyn. He had to caution Mary not to touch him as he had not yet prepared himself to levitate into the heavens. This was akin to changing himself into water such as with a frog that scientists have shown to be levitated and life has shown the appearance of fish and frogs in roads miles away from ponds after a storm. Something to ponder over. I am an atheist. You are a dope. That settles it. |
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On 9/2/2010 9:44 PM, Sal M. Onella wrote:
... I am an atheist. You are a dope. That settles it. Far from it, atheist ain't worth a hoot, if what is really needed is a therapist ... :-( Regards, JS |
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On Sep 2, 2:14*pm, Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 2, 12:34*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:54:01 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin wrote: No John I am not jewish! Thank God. *For a moment, I was worried. One thing that was also written at the time that only a few jewish people continued on the journey while the majority stayed enjoying their former bad ways. Sorta. *The old testament says (somewhere) that about 600,000 left Egypt. *No clue how many followed Moses into the desert as most just wanted to leave the scene of the disaster (10 plagues). *40 years later, about 25,000 entered the promised land with Joshua. *Most of the 40 years was probably spend building and training an army, so there must have been a major reduction in followers in the desert. The actual numbers are highly debatable. As for "bad ways", that's also debatable. *For example, what's the difference between a bribe and a commission? *The only difference is when it's paid. *A bribe in advance, a commission after. *In most middle east cultures, bribes are necessary to secure ones profit. Anyone taking a commission is usually deemed a fool. *Yet, western culture defines taking a bribe as evil, and a commission as desirable. So, who's acting badly, and from who's perspective? These were not receipients of the "promise" so what is going to happen to them when they lose out on judgement day? Same as what we do today.... bribe the judge and pay off his cronies. -- Jeff Liebermann * * 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558 Hmmm Then it would appear that the promised land was only given to less than 10% of those that left in the first place! Maybe Gaza will be large enough for those that followed thru. Grin. I would imagine that decimation could avoid that strip of coastal area. Maybe agreement will come after all, but not this or the next time around as Israel has not stopped gaining ground. Non jews in Israel will never accept expulsion to the new palestinian State in Gaza so that the land of Israel can be totally segregated and jewish. Yet until that happens the opening of the heavens cannot happen without involving the destruction of non jews! A predicament has been written! |
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On Sep 3, 8:34*am, Art Unwin wrote:
Non jews in Israel will never accept expulsion to the new palestinian State in Gaza so that the land of Israel can be totally segregated and jewish. Yet until that happens the opening of the heavens cannot happen without involving the destruction of non jews! A predicament has been written! You are confused, again, Art. The promise was to the Hebrew people, not the "Jews". Very few of the "Jews" in Israel today are Hebrew. Paul |
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On Sep 3, 10:52*am, " wrote:
On Sep 3, 8:34*am, Art Unwin wrote: Non jews in Israel will never accept expulsion to the new palestinian State in Gaza so that the land of Israel can be totally segregated and jewish. Yet until that happens the opening of the heavens cannot happen without involving the destruction of non jews! A predicament has been written! You are confused, again, Art. The promise was to the Hebrew people, not the "Jews". Very few of the "Jews" in Israel today are Hebrew. Paul Why thank you for that titbit! I had never heard that before today. Maybe I should back off and go back to physics where I can give titbits to others and fill in their gaps of knowledge Regards Art |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:32:54 -0700, Art Unwin rearranged some electrons to
say: After Jesus "died" he appeared three days later where he spoke to Mary Madelyn. He had to caution Mary not to touch him as he had not yet prepared himself to levitate into the heavens. This was akin to changing himself into water such as with a frog that scientists have shown to be levitated and life has shown the appearance of fish and frogs in roads miles away from ponds after a storm. Something to ponder over. And what does this have to do with amateur radio? |
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On 9/3/2010 9:07 PM, david wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:32:54 -0700, Art Unwin rearranged some electrons to say: After Jesus "died" he appeared three days later where he spoke to Mary Madelyn. He had to caution Mary not to touch him as he had not yet prepared himself to levitate into the heavens. This was akin to changing himself into water such as with a frog that scientists have shown to be levitated and life has shown the appearance of fish and frogs in roads miles away from ponds after a storm. Something to ponder over. And what does this have to do with amateur radio? Relative newcomer here I assume? Art says what he says, mostly nonsense, and people respond. When he's not around things devolve to delay in coils and suchlike. tom K0TAR |
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You are confused, again, Art. The promise was to the Hebrew people, not the "Jews". Very few of the "Jews" in Israel today are Hebrew. There is DNA evidence to the contrary: http://reformjudaismmag.org/Articles/index.cfm?id=1321 Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM To help restaurants, as part of the "stimulus package", everyone must order dessert. As part of the socialized health plan, you are forbidden to eat it. :-) |
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