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Old September 12th 10, 07:06 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Default "Ionic Liquid" Antenna

On 12 sep, 08:57, John Smith wrote:
On 9/12/2010 4:15 AM, K1TTT wrote:

...
yeah, like compare the signal to one of those rubber coated dummy load
antennas.


Frankly, I thought the guy would have shown up by now laughing. *Having
had a great laugh on us for attempting to take him seriously ... has me
wonderin'!

Regards,
JS


Hello all

OK, this probabily is near a joke or hoax, but what about liquid/ionic/
dielectric in general? I have a pair of interesting links about it =

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freea...number=1461138
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/1508589...ennas_IEEE.pdf

Time ago I had some doubts about the mobility of ions in a liquid to
radiate and calculate how much an electron actually moves when the
antenna is radiating to use as a starting point.
The numbers (if I do not make mistakes) showed me to a current density
in the order of 5 A/mm^2, free electrons can take a trip of just one
three thousandth mm of copper ion radius, surprising result!, really I
did not expect such a small value ..., It showed me that electrons in
antenna barely vibrate around their resting place when radiates (I
made calculations for a irradiant at 80 m).
This favored hypothesis of liquid antenna possibilities because would
suffice for the ions (charges) of the liquid vibrate slightly around
their points of rest to act as radiators (I do not to solve issues
related + ion mass to best "close" my questions).

We know sea water an earth EM wave reflections really are
reirradiation of EM energy, then, ionic antennas there are real
things, are there? However I haven not study the efficience of this
process.

What do you think about it?

Best regards

Miguel LU6ETJ


 
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