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Richard Clark October 23rd 10 09:04 PM

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On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 20:59:10 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

Are you rich enough to check the simplest radio?


The fog of ingrained stereotypes lives on long after the Soviet
Information Bureau published "Falsifiers of History." Stalin
personally edited the book, rewriting entire chapters by hand (how
well we experience this here, daily). The book claimed, for instance,
that American bankers and industrialists (are you rich enough?)
provided capital for the growth of German war industries.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

tom October 24th 10 03:26 AM

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On 10/23/2010 9:55 AM, K1TTT wrote:

I prefer Wiki:
"The voltmeter in the same radio reads 125 millivolts. Since watts (the
measure of how much power we have) is the voltage multiplied by the amperes,
we have 0.000175 times 0.125, or 0.0000218 watts, or about 22 microwatts.
The station is putting out 50 killowatts, and we are receiving one ten
billionth of that power, yet we can hear it across the room."

Could you help? The simplest radio:
" Tape the other diode wire to a cold water faucet. This makes a good
connection to the ground, and is thus called a 'ground' connection.

Hold the remaining free bare wire of the earphone in your hand. This
makes your body into the antenna for the radio. Put the earphone in your
ear. If you are close to a strong AM radio station, you will be able to hear
that station faintly in the earphone. You may hear more than one station at
once. "

The diode has the two ends. Which one should be tapped to a cold water
faucet?
S*


well, of course, once you put a diode in the circuit you are forcing
flow in only one direction. but try this, turn the diode around so it
only allows electron flow FROM the ground... and you will still hear
the station. so now how do electrons flowing from the remote antenna
through the air get to ground through your diode??


:) Nicely put.

But the moron either won't get it or will deny it anyway. Matters little.

But we all know that there are positrons. So maybe he's right after all.

After a few milliseconds contemplation I've decided to go with not right.

tom
K0TAR


tom
K0TAR


K1TTT October 24th 10 12:47 PM

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On Oct 24, 2:26*am, tom wrote:
On 10/23/2010 9:55 AM, K1TTT wrote:





I *prefer Wiki:
"The voltmeter in the same radio reads 125 millivolts. Since watts (the
measure of how much power we have) is the voltage multiplied by the amperes,
we have 0.000175 times 0.125, or 0.0000218 watts, or about 22 microwatts.
The station is putting out 50 killowatts, and we are receiving one ten
billionth of that power, yet we can hear it across the room."


Could you help? *The simplest radio:
" Tape the other diode wire to a cold water faucet. This makes a good
connection to the ground, and is thus called a 'ground' connection.


* * * * *Hold the remaining free bare wire of the earphone in your hand. This
makes your body into the antenna for the radio. Put the earphone in your
ear. If you are close to a strong AM radio station, you will be able to hear
that station faintly in the earphone. You may hear more than one station at
once. "


The diode has the two ends. Which one should be tapped to a cold water
faucet?
S*


well, of course, once you put a diode in the circuit you are forcing
flow in only one direction. *but try this, turn the diode around so it
only allows electron flow FROM the ground... and you will still hear
the station. *so now how do electrons flowing from the remote antenna
through the air get to ground through your diode??


:) *Nicely put.

But the moron either won't get it or will deny it anyway. *Matters little.

But we all know that there are positrons. *So maybe he's right after all.

After a few milliseconds contemplation I've decided to go with not right.

tom
K0TAR

tom
K0TAR


of course he's not right, but its fun to see him try to fit his 'new'
square theory into a nice round hole.

Szczepan Bialek October 24th 10 02:29 PM

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"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Oct 23, 6:59 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Are you rich enough to check the simplest radio?

Is the same power in the both arrangement?

yes, its the same in both directions.


"A simplified drawing of a circuit is called a schematic. A schematic for a
simple crystal radio might look like this if drawn on a napkin at a party: "
http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/r...ade_radio.html

On the simplified drawing the electron flow from antena to ground.
Are you sure that the diode may be mounted in the opposite direction?
S*



Registered User October 24th 10 03:35 PM

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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:29:50 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:


"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Oct 23, 6:59 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Are you rich enough to check the simplest radio?

Is the same power in the both arrangement?

yes, its the same in both directions.


"A simplified drawing of a circuit is called a schematic. A schematic for a
simple crystal radio might look like this if drawn on a napkin at a party: "
http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/r...ade_radio.html

On the simplified drawing the electron flow from antena to ground.
Are you sure that the diode may be mounted in the opposite direction?
S*


My only question is why does my crystal radio work without a ground
connection? Yes the radio does work better with a ground but that does
not negate the fact it works without a ground. And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.

K1TTT October 24th 10 04:59 PM

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On Oct 24, 1:29*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"K1TTT" ...
On Oct 23, 6:59 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



Are you rich enough to check the simplest radio?

Is the same power in the both arrangement?


yes, its the same in both directions.


"A simplified drawing of a circuit is called a schematic. A schematic for a
simple crystal radio might look like this if drawn on a napkin at a party: "http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/radio/homemade_radio.html

On the simplified drawing the electron flow from antena to ground.
Are you sure that the diode may be mounted in the opposite direction?
S*


yes, the diode may be mounted in either direction and it works exactly
the same.

you October 24th 10 06:13 PM

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In article ,
Registered User wrote:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:29:50 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:


"K1TTT" wrote
...
On Oct 23, 6:59 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Are you rich enough to check the simplest radio?
Is the same power in the both arrangement?

yes, its the same in both directions.


"A simplified drawing of a circuit is called a schematic. A schematic for a
simple crystal radio might look like this if drawn on a napkin at a party: "
http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/r...ade_radio.html

On the simplified drawing the electron flow from antena to ground.
Are you sure that the diode may be mounted in the opposite direction?
S*


My only question is why does my crystal radio work without a ground
connection? Yes the radio does work better with a ground but that does
not negate the fact it works without a ground. And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.


Apparently, You have never heard of Capacitive Coupling......

K1TTT October 24th 10 07:13 PM

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On Oct 24, 5:13*pm, you wrote:
In article ,
*Registered User wrote:



On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:29:50 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:


"K1TTT" wrote
....
On Oct 23, 6:59 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:


Are you rich enough to check the simplest radio?
Is the same power in the both arrangement?


yes, its the same in both directions.


"A simplified drawing of a circuit is called a schematic. A schematic for a
simple crystal radio might look like this if drawn on a napkin at a party: "
http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/r...ade_radio.html


On the simplified drawing the electron flow from antena to ground.
Are you sure that the diode may be mounted in the opposite direction?
S*


My only question is why does my crystal radio work without a ground
connection? Yes the radio does work better with a ground but that does
not negate the fact it works without a ground. And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.


Apparently, You have never heard of Capacitive Coupling......


shhhhhhh, we don't want to confuse mr.b any more than necessary.

Szczepan Bialek October 24th 10 07:51 PM

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"Registered User" wrote
...
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:29:50 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

On the simplified drawing the electron flow from antena to ground.
Are you sure that the diode may be mounted in the opposite direction?


My only question is why does my crystal radio work without a ground
connection? Yes the radio does work better with a ground but that does
not negate the fact it works without a ground.


Most receivers has a chassis as a ground.

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.


Does "it works exactly the same"?
S*



K1TTT October 26th 10 12:41 AM

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On Oct 24, 6:51*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
*"Registered User" om...

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:29:50 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:


On the simplified drawing the electron flow from antena to ground.
Are you sure that the diode may be mounted in the opposite direction?


My only question is why does my crystal radio work without a ground
connection? Yes the radio does work better with a ground but that does
not negate the fact it works without a ground.


Most receivers has a chassis as a ground.

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.


Does "it works exactly the same"?
S*


yes


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