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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
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om...

And yes the radio works

with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.


Does "it works exactly the same"?


yes


Your radio is not the simplest. There is the LC. The capacitor has the two
plates so on the both the voltage is doubled. No matter which one is fed to
the headphones.

Could you make the super simplest radio: "Because I have a long (150 foot)
antenna, a good ground, and a strong station (50,000 watts) less than 20
miles away, my radio receives enough power to light a low current LED. The
LED is a 'high brighness' type (which also means that it will light dimly
with a very small amount of current). I connect it instead of diode in the
radio, and it glows as the radio operates, getting brighter as the sound
gets louder. "

The super simplest radio should consist of an antenna, LED and ground.

Can we reverse the LED?
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On Oct 26, 2:45*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

"Registered User"
om...


And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.


Does "it works exactly the same"?

yes


Your radio is not the simplest. There is *the LC. The capacitor has the two
plates so on the both the voltage is doubled. No matter which one is fed to
the headphones.

Could you make the super simplest radio: "Because I have a long (150 foot)
antenna, a good ground, and a strong station (50,000 watts) less than 20
miles away, my radio receives enough power to light a low current LED. The
LED is a 'high brighness' type (which also means that it will light dimly
with a very small amount of current). I connect it instead of diode in the
radio, and it glows as the radio operates, getting brighter as the sound
gets louder. "

The super simplest radio should consist of an antenna, LED and ground.

Can we reverse the LED?
S*


Very innovative
Art
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On Oct 26, 7:45*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w ...
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

"Registered User"
om...


And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.


Does "it works exactly the same"?

yes


Your radio is not the simplest. There is *the LC. The capacitor has the two
plates so on the both the voltage is doubled. No matter which one is fed to
the headphones.

Could you make the super simplest radio: "Because I have a long (150 foot)
antenna, a good ground, and a strong station (50,000 watts) less than 20
miles away, my radio receives enough power to light a low current LED. The
LED is a 'high brighness' type (which also means that it will light dimly
with a very small amount of current). I connect it instead of diode in the
radio, and it glows as the radio operates, getting brighter as the sound
gets louder. "

The super simplest radio should consist of an antenna, LED and ground.

Can we reverse the LED?
S*


yes
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"Art Unwin" wrote
...
On Oct 26, 2:45 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

Could you make the super simplest radio: "Because I have a long (150
foot)

antenna, a good ground, and a strong station (50,000 watts) less than 20
miles away, my radio receives enough power to light a low current LED. The
LED is a 'high brighness' type (which also means that it will light dimly
with a very small amount of current). I connect it instead of diode in the
radio, and it glows as the radio operates, getting brighter as the sound
gets louder. "

The super simplest radio should consist of an antenna, LED and ground.


Can we reverse the LED?

S*


Very innovative


What indicates the DC meter close to transmitter between the antenna and
ground?
S*

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On Oct 27, 8:14*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
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On Oct 26, 2:45 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:



Could you make the super simplest radio: "Because I have a long (150
foot)

antenna, a good ground, and a strong station (50,000 watts) less than 20
miles away, my radio receives enough power to light a low current LED. The
LED is a 'high brighness' type (which also means that it will light dimly
with a very small amount of current). I connect it instead of diode in the
radio, and it glows as the radio operates, getting brighter as the sound
gets louder. "


The super simplest radio should consist of an antenna, LED and ground.


Can we reverse the LED?

S*
Very innovative


What indicates the DC meter close to transmitter between the antenna and
ground?
S*


zero


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Uzytkownik "K1TTT" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Oct 27, 8:14 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

What indicates the DC meter close to transmitter between the antenna and

ground?


zero


1. Zero in the sunny day,
2. Zero under the storm cloud (Franklin),
3. Zero before the storm (when the St. Elmo's fire are).
S*


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On 10/25/2010 08:41 PM, K1TTT wrote:
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan wrote:
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:29:50 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
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On the simplified drawing the electron flow from antena to ground.
Are you sure that the diode may be mounted in the opposite direction?


My only question is why does my crystal radio work without a ground
connection? Yes the radio does work better with a ground but that does
not negate the fact it works without a ground.


Most receivers has a chassis as a ground.

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.


Does "it works exactly the same"?
S*


yes


I haven't read all the thread.

I always see the diode in series between the antenna and the headphones.

You will get a much louder audio signal if you connect a germanium diode
( 1N34 ) in parallel with the phones.

\/ antenna
|
|________
| |
-- O
diode \/ ) phones
-- O
| |
|_______|
|
____
__ ground
-


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"Alejandro Lieber" wrote
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On 10/25/2010 08:41 PM, K1TTT wrote:
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan wrote:
"Registered
om...

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.

Does "it works exactly the same"?
S*


yes


I haven't read all the thread.


I always see the diode in series between the antenna and the headphones.


Like he http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/r...ade_radio.html


You will get a much louder audio signal if you connect a germanium diode
( 1N34 ) in parallel with the phones.


\/ antenna
|
|________
| |
-- O
diode \/ ) phones
-- O
| |
|_______|
|
____
__ ground
-



Is the direction of the diode important?
If yes, where should flow the electrons through the diode?
S*

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Alejandro Lieber" wrote
...
On 10/25/2010 08:41 PM, K1TTT wrote:
On Oct 24, 6:51 pm, "Szczepan wrote:
"Registered
om...

And yes the radio works
with the ground and antenna connections reversed. The diode is a piece
of galena.

Does "it works exactly the same"?
S*

yes


I haven't read all the thread.


I always see the diode in series between the antenna and the headphones.


Like he http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/r...ade_radio.html


You will get a much louder audio signal if you connect a germanium diode
( 1N34 ) in parallel with the phones.


\/ antenna
|
|________
| |
-- O
diode \/ ) phones
-- O
| |
|_______|
|
____
__ ground
-



Is the direction of the diode important?


No.

How many times do you have to be told that before it sinks in?


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On Oct 28, 12:11*pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
... where should flow the electrons through the diode?


The diode (plus leads) is much longer than the total movement of the
electrons at RF. Exactly how many electrons are "flowing" through the
diode during each RF cycle?
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