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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the
particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.


In reality you are a babbling kook.


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Art Unwin wrote:
Antennas usually are made of aluminum as copper is somewhat heavier
and silver and gold is to expensive. Since lead is now banned in a lot
of places especially with solder you can now buy solder that is doped
with Bismuth !
Now you can't coat your elements with it but if you have a solder
bath you can run copper wire thru it. The bismuth is brittle
but with the underlying copper it is stiff enough to stick it on the
antenna elements. I am assuming that the applied current would travel
along the bismuth coating instead of the aluminum and therefore should
increase gain for antennas that use coupling methods such as the Yagi
tho bandwidth may well suffer some what.
What do you think?


Since the conductivity of aluminum is about 43 times higher than that of
bisimuth, I think you are babbling.


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On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 04:31:55 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE
wrote:

Obviously a reduction in IR losses will improve any antenna. Art how
much do you thing making an antenna out of silver instead of aluminum
would reduce the IR losses.


InfraRed loss in an antenna?

or perhaps:

I·R Voltage Loss in an antenna?

or perhaps:

I²·R Power Loss in an antenna?

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Yes, I²·R loss is the entire point (and positive characteristic) of an
antenna, especially if R is radiation resistance.

Hmmm, I·R loss could be said to be a naturally occurring fact of life
along the length of any antenna if we consider the distribution of
potential.

Ouch, InfraRed loss could burn you - but it would be curious to note
that if an antenna is truly an equal performer (transmit/receive) what
would we hear from the antenna when the sun rises in the morning?

As to the receive-mode phenomenon of this sunrise observation, if that
antenna were coated with diamagnetic water (dew), then we would
observe particles leaping (-um- steaming) off of it (with sizzle)!

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On Oct 6, 2:47*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the
particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.


Seems you have it backwards. The slow-moving free electrons oscillate
back and forth at HF, moving forward and backward very little
(calculate it for yourself). The energy flow from source to load is in
the form of photons/fields/waves traveling at the speed of light
which is impossible for electrons. As far as ham radio antenna
functions go, electrons and photons are the only things known to
physics to be active in transferring and radiating RF energy.
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"Cecil Moore" wrote
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On Oct 6, 2:47 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the

particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.


Seems you have it backwards. The slow-moving free electrons oscillate

back and forth at HF, moving forward and backward very little
(calculate it for yourself).

Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.

The energy flow from source to load is in

the form of photons/fields/waves traveling at the speed of light
which is impossible for electrons.

Photons in a wire?

As far as ham radio antenna

functions go, electrons and photons are the only things known to
physics to be active in transferring and radiating RF energy.

Electrons were discovered. Photons are the products of speculations.
S*


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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote
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On Oct 6, 2:47 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the

particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.


Seems you have it backwards. The slow-moving free electrons oscillate

back and forth at HF, moving forward and backward very little
(calculate it for yourself).

Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.


Babbling, work salad, nonsense.

The energy flow from source to load is in

the form of photons/fields/waves traveling at the speed of light
which is impossible for electrons.

Photons in a wire?


No, you idiot.

As far as ham radio antenna

functions go, electrons and photons are the only things known to
physics to be active in transferring and radiating RF energy.

Electrons were discovered. Photons are the products of speculations.
S*


No, you idiot.

Photons have been observed.


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Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.


The intellectual product of a Stalinist education system.

Or the most lucid manifesto available from the Tea Party.

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On 10/6/2010 2:13 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.


The intellectual product of a Stalinist education system.

Or the most lucid manifesto available from the Tea Party.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Ah, I almost forgot, it's election time.

Could you please let it go just one election season? It is boring and
repetitious crap and way beneath your normal responses.

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