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"Cecil Moore" wrote
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On Oct 6, 2:47 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the

particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.


Seems you have it backwards. The slow-moving free electrons oscillate

back and forth at HF, moving forward and backward very little
(calculate it for yourself).

Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.

The energy flow from source to load is in

the form of photons/fields/waves traveling at the speed of light
which is impossible for electrons.

Photons in a wire?

As far as ham radio antenna

functions go, electrons and photons are the only things known to
physics to be active in transferring and radiating RF energy.

Electrons were discovered. Photons are the products of speculations.
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote
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On Oct 6, 2:47 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
In reality are the continuous flow and the oscillatory flow. Flow of the

particles. The oscillatry flow is the wave.


Seems you have it backwards. The slow-moving free electrons oscillate

back and forth at HF, moving forward and backward very little
(calculate it for yourself).

Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.


Babbling, work salad, nonsense.

The energy flow from source to load is in

the form of photons/fields/waves traveling at the speed of light
which is impossible for electrons.

Photons in a wire?


No, you idiot.

As far as ham radio antenna

functions go, electrons and photons are the only things known to
physics to be active in transferring and radiating RF energy.

Electrons were discovered. Photons are the products of speculations.
S*


No, you idiot.

Photons have been observed.


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Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.


The intellectual product of a Stalinist education system.

Or the most lucid manifesto available from the Tea Party.

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On 10/6/2010 2:13 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.


The intellectual product of a Stalinist education system.

Or the most lucid manifesto available from the Tea Party.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Ah, I almost forgot, it's election time.

Could you please let it go just one election season? It is boring and
repetitious crap and way beneath your normal responses.

tom
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"tom" wrote
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On 10/6/2010 2:13 PM, Richard Clark wrote:
Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.


The intellectual product of a Stalinist education system.

Or the most lucid manifesto available from the Tea Party.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Ah, I almost forgot, it's electron time.


And the field emissions.

Could you please let it go just one electron season? It is boring and
repetitious crap and way beneath your normal responses.


Electrons, mass transport and the field emission are reality. EM is a myth.
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:26:49 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
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"tom" wrote
Ah, I almost forgot, it's electron time.


Evidence of the revisionist Stalinist influence.

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"Richard Clark" wrote
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Symmetrical back and forth take place only in the simple equations.
In EACH wave the forth is stronger than back.


The intellectual product of a Stalinist education system.


"It was shown by Stokes that in a water wave the particles of fluid possess,
apart from their orbital motion, a steady second-order drift velocity
(usually called the mass-transport velocity)."

In all schools the second-order effects are neglected.
In Stokes time no radio. But the above apply to all waves.

You should start with the selfeducation.
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On 10/7/2010 1:05 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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"It was shown by Stokes that in a water wave the particles of fluid possess,
apart from their orbital motion, a steady second-order drift velocity
(usually called the mass-transport velocity)."
...


Sounds like you are using a stream of salt water as a radiator! Is the
pump Bismuth coated to prevent corrosion?

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"John Smith" wrote
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On 10/7/2010 1:05 AM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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"It was shown by Stokes that in a water wave the particles of fluid
possess,
apart from their orbital motion, a steady second-order drift velocity
(usually called the mass-transport velocity)."
...


Sounds like you are using a stream of salt water as a radiator! Is the
pump Bismuth coated to prevent corrosion?


In each radiator is a stream of electrons. The oscillating pump is in the
transmitter. But where is the tank with the electrons?

It is in the buried or elevated radials. R. Roy wrote: "If the earth was a
perfect conductor then those currents could travel
through the earth without loss, and a single, short ground rod would
serve as an electrical reference point for the r-f current flowing in
the antenna system. The sum of those r-f currents flowing in the
earth around the monopole, and collected by that ground rod will be
equal to the base current in the 1/4-wave, series-fed monopole"

The soil is different in each place. The air is similar. So the elevated
radials are universal. They catch the electrons from the air.
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

In each radiator is a stream of electrons. The oscillating pump is in the
transmitter. But where is the tank with the electrons?


Where is the source of drugs that make you post this babbling nonsense?


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