W5DXP wrote in message ...
WB3FUP (Mike Hall) wrote:
Actually only the morse operators will have half a
chance of operating if the BPL goes through. They
need the least amount of signal to be able to
communicate.

Actually, PACTOR II gets through when I can't even hear
the CW ID signals.

Cecil,
The most important aspect of all this is, if it is accepted
what would be the new emmission standards in Industry?
I can imagine a lot of users of RF driers will be happy
with the minimising of restrictions as well as other
manufacturers and users of such equipment.
Medical costs will also rise since equipment
used will now have to face new challenges.
The FCC got into hot water very quickly with their last
actions with Congress which also raised the ire of many others.
I doubt that they would be willing to follow the path of money
on this one because the cost related to required determinations
thru out Industry will fall on their own department.
They must also realise that numbers DO count with Congress since
looking after the Countries interests is NOT the first priority,
personal re-election is ahead of EVERY thing.
Haven't seen any statistics yet as to why Japan threw out the idea
or the timing of the same proposal in the U.K./EEC.
If the ARRL is so desparate for money maybe a short term membership
scheme would be in order, say $2 for a years subsciption to QST
without the last 2/3 s of the publication being offered!
Regards
Art

(Art Unwin KB9MZ) wrote in message om...
W5DXP wrote in message ...
WB3FUP (Mike Hall) wrote:
Actually only the morse operators will have half a
chance of operating if the BPL goes through. They
need the least amount of signal to be able to
communicate.

Actually, PACTOR II gets through when I can't even hear
the CW ID signals.

Cecil,
The most important aspect of all this is, if it is accepted
what would be the new emmission standards in Industry?
I can imagine a lot of users of RF driers will be happy
with the minimising of restrictions as well as other
manufacturers and users of such equipment.
Medical costs will also rise since equipment
used will now have to face new challenges.
The FCC got into hot water very quickly with their last
actions with Congress which also raised the ire of many others.
I doubt that they would be willing to follow the path of money
on this one because the cost related to required determinations
thru out Industry will fall on their own department.
They must also realise that numbers DO count with Congress since
looking after the Countries interests is NOT the first priority,
personal re-election is ahead of EVERY thing.
Haven't seen any statistics yet as to why Japan threw out the idea

Try this: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/pl...erence_Studies


or the timing of the same proposal in the U.K./EEC.
If the ARRL is so desparate for money maybe a short term membership
scheme would be in order, say $2 for a years subsciption to QST
without the last 2/3 s of the publication being offered!
Regards
Art

w3rv

For all of you that don't think the interferance is going to be "not so
bad" even in CW, should come to Dayton, Ohio or any other city that still
runs electric trolly lines and listen to the S-9 +40 signal that the 400
hertz trolly lines produce, and you can here it on a mobile reciever up to
2000 feet from the lines, especially when a trolly is in the area and
moving. It cost money to fight the big money in DC, the power companies
have an almost unlimited purse into which we the consumers have to keep
pouring cash. They can hire the most costly lobbiest groups around for
their cause. I run CW, PSK, RTTY and SSB here and it will really wipe out
any and all signals on all bands, especially in wet and foggy weather, you
guys better think again about simply bashing the ARRL about wanting money
to fight this, or just sell your rigs now and buy stock in the power
companies that will be polluting the RF spectrum from DC to Daylight with
a bunch of noise that sounds like a geiger counter gone nuts in an uranium
deposit. If the power companies get their way HF amateur radio will cease
to exist as we know it. As I said, come to Dayton for the Hamvention next
year and I will challenge you to do any HF work any were near an elelctric
trolly line. Or just drive near any high tension power line and listen to
the S-9 + noise levels from them, and with no broad spectrum data streams
on them yet. The power companies have the FCC chair in their pockets guys
and the power companies won't lift a finger now to clean up their act.
What do you think they will tell you when BPL wipes out you Ham radio and
other RF spectrums. You guessed it, they will tell you to go away and
shut up as the FCC says that they have the right to do it.......

Fred KE8TQ
XYL Lorraine KC8HWV





On 13 Aug 2003, Brian Kelly wrote:
(Art Unwin KB9MZ) wrote in message om...
W5DXP wrote in message ...
WB3FUP (Mike Hall) wrote:
Actually only the morse operators will have half a
chance of operating if the BPL goes through. They
need the least amount of signal to be able to
communicate.

Actually, PACTOR II gets through when I can't even hear
the CW ID signals.

Cecil,
The most important aspect of all this is, if it is accepted
what would be the new emmission standards in Industry?
I can imagine a lot of users of RF driers will be happy
with the minimising of restrictions as well as other
manufacturers and users of such equipment.
Medical costs will also rise since equipment
used will now have to face new challenges.
The FCC got into hot water very quickly with their last
actions with Congress which also raised the ire of many others.
I doubt that they would be willing to follow the path of money
on this one because the cost related to required determinations
thru out Industry will fall on their own department.
They must also realise that numbers DO count with Congress since
looking after the Countries interests is NOT the first priority,
personal re-election is ahead of EVERY thing.
Haven't seen any statistics yet as to why Japan threw out the idea

Try this: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/pl...erence_Studies


or the timing of the same proposal in the U.K./EEC.
If the ARRL is so desparate for money maybe a short term membership
scheme would be in order, say $2 for a years subsciption to QST
without the last 2/3 s of the publication being offered!
Regards
Art

w3rv


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Fred wrote in message
...
For all of you that don't think the interferance is going to be "not so
bad" even in CW, should come to Dayton, Ohio or any other city that still
runs electric trolly lines and listen to the S-9 +40 signal that the 400
hertz trolly lines produce, and you can here it on a mobile reciever up to
2000 feet from the lines, especially when a trolly is in the area and
moving. It cost money to fight the big money in DC, the power companies
have an almost unlimited purse into which we the consumers have to keep
pouring cash. They can hire the most costly lobbiest groups around for

400 Hz, really??