On 6/24/2011 10:16 AM, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Jun 23, 6:11 pm, Mike wrote:
Do you actually see any relation between quanta and aether theory?

Looks like you assumed I was making an exclusive assertion when it was
actually inclusive.

Okay, Cecil - now work phlogiston theory into this, and I'll buy you a beer.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

On Jun 24, 7:17*pm, Mike Coslo wrote:
Okay, Cecil - now work phlogiston theory into this, and I'll buy you a beer.

Exactly what is wrong with the concept of a "quantum aether"?
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On Jun 24, 7:17 pm, Mike Coslo wrote:
Okay, Cecil - now work phlogiston theory into this, and I'll buy you a
beer.

Exactly what is wrong with the concept of a "quantum aether"?

And what about of Dirac see: "The Dirac sea is a theoretical model of the
vacuum as an infinite sea of particles with negative energy".
S*

On 6/28/2011 2:16 PM, Szczepan Bialek wrote:

And what about of Dirac see: "The Dirac sea is a theoretical model of the
vacuum as an infinite sea of particles with negative energy".


It's still not aether, it's an awkward prediction of infinite energy.

As incredibly cool as I think that would be, I suspect that we're going
to find that there is an equal and opposite effect going on.

If it's real, then Arthur C Clark predicted not only a whole lot of
energy, but a heat crisis to boot. Know how that would happen?

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

On 6/28/2011 11:38 AM, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Jun 24, 7:17 pm, Mike wrote:
Okay, Cecil - now work phlogiston theory into this, and I'll buy you a beer.

Exactly what is wrong with the concept of a "quantum aether"?

So is this like the aether that acts as a transport medium, or is it
like quanta, that pop into and out of existence?

And that's where I have the issue. Use of the two terms like that is
confusing. I find that some like to invoke the term as some sort of
vindication of previous ideas, some just invoke a superficial
resemblance. I remember when I first learned of quantum soup, I
immediately thought of aether, but after ten seconds or so, I figured it
was a very superficial resemblance only.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

On Jul 4, 8:04*pm, Mike Coslo wrote:
So is this like the aether that acts as a transport medium, or is it
like quanta, that pop into and out of existence?

Change the "or" to "and" and you've got it. It is quanta that pop into
and out of existence that acts as a transport medium for EM waves. EM
waves cannot propagate without "it" as a medium. That's why EM waves
cannot escape the universe - witness the 12+ billion year old
background radiation still propagating through the quantum aether to
this very day.
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73, Cecil, w5dxp.com