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Having but recently returned to the world of shortwave radio, I'm
trying to be better informed about technical and safety issues than I was as a kid. Now a homeowner with a mortgage and a homeowner's insurance policy, I'm worried about lightning protection. I'm receiving only, not transmitting. I have a ground rod just outside the window where the antenna wire enters, and I intend to disconnect the antenna outside the house when I'm not using the shortwave. But I want to be extra careful! So I'm considering some options. Which make sense to you seasoned hams? Do any of these leave me open to my homeowner's insurance being voided if I get a direct hit by lightning? _____________________________ I ordered this before I read the disclaimer: just "better than nuthin?" http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...tect/4618.html The Opek A7516 Lightning Arrestor is not the "state-of-the-art" in radio protection. These "air gap" arrestors were OK for tube sets, but are not the best for today's solid-state rigs. However, if you are on a budget, this device is a whole lot better than nuthin! As with all lightning protection devices; you must connect it to an earth ground with thick ground wire, and it is not going to provide protection in the event of a direct hit. _____________________________ So, here's a better gas-discharge arrestor: http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...tect/5611.html The LDG SP-200 surge protector operates from DC to 1500 MHz with a 200 watt power capacity. The SP-200 protects coax feedlines from surges exceeding 230V, such as caused by nearby lightning strikes and static build-up. The SP-200 employs a gas-discharge tube that arcs-over when 230VDC is exceeded between the RF center pin and shield connections. _____________________________ A variation, with different connectors: http://www.radiolabs.com/products/an...protection.php Ultra Fast Gas Discharge 0.4db Max Insertion Loss 350V or 90V Breakdown Voltage VSWR Better than 1.5:1 Passes DC voltage 200W Operation _____________________________ This doesn't say if it uses gas or air: http://www.jetstream-usa.com/instructions/jtla1.pdf # Model # JTLA1 # 1.5-200 Mhz # 50 ohm # 8 kW PEP, 4 kW DC # Insertion Loss: Less than .1db # Surge Current Capacity 20,000 Amperers # VSWR Less Than 1.1:1 @ 1000Mhz # Voltage Attack Time: 0 to 10 Billionths of a second _____________________________ Can I use something like this? It's designed for fences, but could easily be rigged for an antenna input: http://www.zarebasystems.com/store/e...ccessories/la1 Protecting the fence charger from lightning strikes on the fence line. This lightning arrestor creates a path of least resistance, diverting lightning surges to the ground. _____________________________ What's going on here? http://ku5e.com/index-59869.html The lower picture shows a device mounted atop the ground pole. Do you recognize it? _____________________________ Rees Chapman Dahlonega, GA |
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 02:23:13 -0700 (PDT), DrYattz
wrote: Having but recently returned to the world of shortwave radio, I'm trying to be better informed about technical and safety issues than I was as a kid. Now a homeowner with a mortgage and a homeowner's insurance policy, I'm worried about lightning protection. I'm receiving only, not transmitting. I have a ground rod just outside the window where the antenna wire enters, and I intend to disconnect the antenna outside the house when I'm not using the shortwave. But I want to be extra careful! So I'm considering some options. Which make sense to you seasoned hams? Do any of these leave me open to my homeowner's insurance being voided if I get a direct hit by lightning? Hi Rees, For the Home: If you implement an intention to control lightning hazard, I would suspect a jury would see it your way if you sued the insurance company for failing to uphold their policy with you. However, they might grieve at yielding to the insurance's arguments against you. It wouldn't get to trial if you could demonstrate that you met the electrical code. The elephant in the room is: have you properly installed that ground rod? Driving a long one deep into the ground does not qualify for a "yes" to that question. Ground is a very complex and mysterious thing for many, many people. The electrical code doesn't go any great distance to inform you of its mysteries, but it does give you solutions that work. For the Receiver: As for protecting your receiver from the lightning risk presented by putting wire up into the air. All of the lighting protectors you have links to guarantee you will see a couple of hundred volts across the terminals. The receiver is not going to survive. The distinction between near strike and direct strike are not really material to the problem of frying the receiver. The difference is merely one of personal drama. You may encounter this potential even on a seemingly cloudless day. Receiver solutions: Short the potential. This may be accomplish by using the "Folded Dipole" design of horizontal antenna. A "Folded Monopole" design for a vertical antenna. Other designs that employ loop coupling would also reduce the risk. All such options offer a DC short, but with an RF impedance. This insures static electricity drain, but allows an RF voltage (the short wave signal) to develop. A large inductor across the feedline or conventional dipole feed point provides the same protection. The coil acts as a DC short, but as an RF open. Some SWL lightning protectors employ paired diodes to reduce the voltage risk to less than 10V - trivial indeed. Unfortunately, these same diodes will conduct in the presence of large RF fields (recall my discussion about nearby AM transmitters, and "nearby" is relatively near for RF but seemingly distant if you had to walk or even drive to it). This conduction will ruin listening opportunities with a jungle of mysterious signals "that shouldn't be there." Example, hearing an FM rock station feed on the 60M band. Having a Tuner between your radio and antenna shifts the dynamics such that the gap arrestors are useful - until you throw the bypass switch. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Thanks, Richard!
But help me understand this: All of the lighting protectors you have links to guarantee you will see a couple of hundred volts across the terminals. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...tect/5611.html says * 230V DC discharge voltage ±15% * Max 1000V surge (1x 40 µS duration) * Max 6000A surge (1x 40 µS duration) Which tells me that if the incoming current exceeds 230V, it dumps up to 1000V and 6000A to ground. Right? Rees |
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On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 05:52:34 -0700 (PDT), DrYattz
wrote: Which tells me that if the incoming current exceeds 230V, .... if the incoming voltage exceeds... it dumps up to 1000V and 6000A to ground. Right? Sort of (voltage does not dump, so to speak). Hi Rees, The voltage in excess of 230V sustains the dumped current. The 230V is still there, all the same. That is to say that the resistance of the gap is (for all practical purposes) infinite at voltages below 230V. For voltages applied that exceed 230V, the resistance of the gap is 230V/2300A = 0.1 Ohm. I chose 2300A both for ease of math, and as being representative. Hence the gap undergoes a astronomical change in resistance in a very short time (about a microsecond or less). This is great fortune to the house's protection. This is poor fortune to the radio's first transistor which resides in an environment of, at most, 9V to 12V as a supply for gain, and 0.5V as typically the highest voltage seen at the input. Transistors are rated to sustain higher voltages, typically in the 10s of volts, sometimes higher. 230V to 1000V surge (as guaranteed) offer a speedy death. Of course, of the original source being orders of magnitude greater, lightning boosts speedy death to instantaneous (within nanoseconds). Let's take a scenario closer to experience, and one that could easily be likened to a near death experience at that. Open the hood of your car, grab an unconnected spark plug lead with the end just a tenth of an inch from the engine block (a common test of the ignition system). You observe a spark. Dare you hold the metal clip where that spark is jumping from it to the block? Dare you even hold the lead on its insulation? The gap guarantees a certain voltage, and the system guarantees a certain current (otherwise you would be forever stalled in the driveway). Why the hesitation in holding this lead, IF ALL the voltage and current is dumped into the block? Experience will inform you of why you hesitate, and why the transistor fears elevated potential. An antenna invites access to elevated potentials from many sources other than lightning. Even on a clear day, a dipole can accumulate enough charge to make the spark gap sizzle. This would be extraordinary circumstances in some parts of the US, and typical in other parts. Yet and all as this may be commonplace, radios still play and life goes on. There are many other factors to consider insofar as what the input transistor has to suffer or enjoy. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Rees,
The use of a device such as this that purports to protect the radio from a differential signal impressed across one interface could lure you into a false sense of security. It does not eliminate the effects of elevation of the 'grounded' sided of the interface above real ground, and especially relative to other equipment. Of course, if the radio has more than one interface (eg a power lead), the problem is much greater than protecting it against a differential transient on that interface. It is entirely possible that you do such a good job of protecting the input interface, that the receiver is destroyed by a transient from the power cord (if it uses one). You must take the bigger picture into account. Then there is a question of the damage threshold (current / time profile) for the interface, the expected current waveshape, and the response characteristic of the device. Whilst a high performance FET might be destroyed long before a gas tube fires, even one doped with radioactive isotope, on the other hand, the input stage of a HF receiver with the input attenuator in circuit might survive without protection. It is a really complex problem, and the risk is that spending some small money migth delude you into a false sense of security. I am with Richard, don't take less than competent measures for possibly worse outcomes. Owen |
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Rees,
The use of a device such as this that purports to protect the radio from a differential signal impressed across one interface could lure you into a false sense of security. It does not eliminate the effects of elevation of the 'grounded' sided of the interface above real ground, and especially relative to other equipment. Of course, if the radio has more than one interface (eg a power lead), the problem is much greater than protecting it against a differential transient on that interface. It is entirely possible that you do such a good job of protecting the input interface, that the receiver is destroyed by a transient from the power cord (if it uses one). You must take the bigger picture into account. Then there is a question of the damage threshold (current / time profile) for the interface, the expected current waveshape, and the response characteristic of the device. Whilst a high performance FET might be destroyed long before a gas tube fires, even one doped with radioactive isotope, on the other hand, the input stage of a HF receiver with the input attenuator in circuit might survive without protection. It is a really complex problem, and the risk is that spending some small money migth delude you into a false sense of security. I am with Richard, don't take less than competent measures for possibly worse outcomes. Owen |
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Rees,
The use of a device such as this that purports to protect the radio from a differential signal impressed across one interface could lure you into a false sense of security. It does not eliminate the effects of elevation of the 'grounded' sided of the interface above real ground, and especially relative to other equipment. Of course, if the radio has more than one interface (eg a power lead), the problem is much greater than protecting it against a differential transient on that interface. It is entirely possible that you do such a good job of protecting the input interface, that the receiver is destroyed by a transient from the power cord (if it uses one). You must take the bigger picture into account. Then there is a question of the damage threshold (current / time profile) for the interface, the expected current waveshape, and the response characteristic of the device. Whilst a high performance FET might be destroyed long before a gas tube fires, even one doped with radioactive isotope, on the other hand, the input stage of a HF receiver with the input attenuator in circuit might survive without protection. It is a really complex problem, and the risk is that spending some small money migth delude you into a false sense of security. I am with Richard, don't take less than competent measures for possibly worse outcomes. Owen |
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If you are going to go to the expense of trying to keep the lightning out of your shack and your radio - you need to do several things.
The first is the use of something called Polyphasers - Although I have talked to the man who founded the company and he seemed like a real bung hole - he did have many valid points and his equipment is used here exclusively for the install of CELL Towers. In the world of towers - there is a formula of how to expect lightning strikes. With a 350' tower - you can expect on average 2 strikes per a year and a catastropic strike once every 4 years. When I say catastropic - I mean a lightning strike which does about $40,000 of damage. When you add it all up, it averages about $6,000.00 per a strike. There is also something called the big 7 - that is 7 people who owns 1000 or more cell towers each. Their maintenence bill is something in the order of about $36.5 million dollars per a year - due to lightning strikes. The things that we do to subdue lightning strikes is covered under the Motorola codes for towers. It's a simple formula We bond everything in the candleabra - each antenna carries it's own ground. Every 30 feet down the tower - the heliax gets connected / bonded to a ground along the ladder mount. At the bottom of the tower - each coax ( Heliax) gets bonded to ground. Before it goes into any type of transmitter building, it gets bonded to a ground. Each leg of the tower is bonded to a ground. There is a loop around the transmitter building and tower with stakes spaced evenly all around and sometimes a wire mesh is placed under the tower and around the building to absorbe the lighting and displace it. Everything gets bonded to the grounds by way of thermal welded joints - Cadweld. All of the equipment inside of the transmitter building is cadwelded to the ground and the electrical service is also bonded to all the other grounds. The towers here - are not ran off of the consumer power lines. It is attached to a battery bank and the battery bank is connected to the power supply. Even if the power goes out - there is enough power to run the tower two more days. If after that the power does not come back on - there is provisions to switch service to a different tower or to connect the battery bank to alternate power sources - generators. These standards - called R 56 is not written in stone - but is pretty much the industry standards for cell tower construction. http://lightning-protection-institut...f%20damage.htm http://www.esgroundingsolutions.com/...quirements.php |
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On 8/12/2011 2:23 AM, DrYattz wrote:
Having but recently returned to the world of shortwave radio, I'm trying to be better informed about technical and safety issues than I was as a kid. Now a homeowner with a mortgage and a homeowner's insurance policy, I'm worried about lightning protection. I'm receiving only, not transmitting. I have a ground rod just outside the window where the antenna wire enters, and I intend to disconnect the antenna outside the house when I'm not using the shortwave. But I want to be extra careful! Separate two issues: 1) having the house not burn down 2) protecting the front end of your radio #1 is fairly straightforward and what your homeowner's insurance company might care about #2 is pretty darn tricky, but the homeowner's insurance company doesn't care much about your radio. As others will point out, a single rod pounded in does not generally a code compliant ground make. And a single rod pounded in might actually make things worse, as far as damage and destruction goes. The goal is to get the lightning energy to go "somewhere else" than in your house. A secondary goal, since sending ALL lightning energy somewhere else is very difficult, is to not have the remainder destroy the radio. First off.. almost all amateur antenna installations do not fully comply with the electrical code (and before I get flamed.. let me ask all you would be commenters: do you have a listed antenna discharge unit? are all your conductors no less than AWG 14 hard drawn copper or copper clad steel? Is your antenna lead in entirely contained within a metallic raceway? I thought not.. pace...we're going for practical here) That said, I think that a "good faith" effort to do the right thing will help, and besides, unless you're in a disaster area, insurance companies generally don't work to try and deny claims on flimsy basis. there's the whole "reasonable person" aspect and your looking for decent information is a good start of what a "reasonable person" would do. You might take a look at the safety chapter in the ARRL handbook as a start (the library has it, almost certainly, or you can find someone who will loan it to you). A antenna discharge unit (open spark gap with a spacing of a few tenths of an inch) to a ground rod or rods will go a long way towards keeping most of the lightning current out of the house. It takes several kV to jump the gap, but once the gap is conducting, the voltage drops to a few tens of volts, and that's nothing in the overall scheme of things where there are many kilovolts along your wire. The real problem comes in with the fact that no matter how good a job you do in connecting that gap to the rod, there's going to some distance, and some voltage drop between the voltage at that arrestor (during the strike) and "the rest of the house ground potential". If your radio is sitting in the middle, it WILL conduct, and it WILL be exciting. The idea, then, is to make sure that no big voltages occur across two terminals of the radio (that could either be antenna and ground terminal, e.g. coax, or antenna and power supply). The big deal is the AC power.. your wall socket is close to ground potential (in terms of kilovolts, anyway). So if your radio's antenna is at 2 or 3 kV, and the power cord is at ground, your radio will fry. Run the radio off batteries? As long as you're not touching it, and it's not hooked up with an audio cable to your PC or something, then it just floats up to a few kV, and then, floats back down. Most UL listed wall wart power supplies these days can hold off several thousand volts between inside and outside (that's the so called "hi pot" test rating). Beyond that, it starts getting into gas tubes, and similar stuff to try and protect the innards of the radio. How much does your radio cost? Do you want to spend hundreds of dollars on surge suppressors to protect a $200 radio? it's also remarkably hard to build a very sensitive receiver that will tolerate even a few tens of volts on the input. |
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Jim Lux wrote in
: .... Most UL listed wall wart power supplies these days can hold off several thousand volts between inside and outside (that's the so called "hi pot" test rating). That may be so at DC or 60 Hz, but it may be relatively transparent to the spectral components of lightning discharge current, components that may me significant to 100MHz or more. There is no simple broadband equivalent circuit of the power transformer, but at 100MHz, it might look more like some series capacitance of the order of 100pF from primary to secondary for common mode excitation... and that may well allow damaging currents to flow (without insulation breakdown or permanent damage to the transformer), whether driven from the coax shield, the power line, or more likely, both. Just another factor that makes design of bullet proof solutions so challenging. Owen |
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