Cecil,

Wow! Struck a nerve. Must be close to the truth.

I have said repeatedly that the alternative technical descriptions
co-exist. I have never said that one "causes" the other. That would be
folly, since we are dealing with math models, not physical cause and effect.

Let me turn the arrow back to you.

Give us one example where forward and reverse waves "cause" a standing
wave, and then prove that it's not the other way 'round.

I am not aware of any credible technical writing on the subject of cause
and effect in these matters, so I am anxiously awaiting your answer.
(Hint: Don't waste your time.)

And as to "shut up", yes, I will now do that.

Until next time . .

73,
Gene
W4SZ

Cecil Moore wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote:

Note that he uses "imagine", not required, essential, or any other
mandatory word.


You know that I know, "imagine" is just an expression authors use in
the remote event that there might ever be a standing wave without a
forward and reverse wave. All I am asking is for you to provide just
one example where standing waves are not caused by forward and reverse
waves.

You guys mealymouth all around that challenge but NEVER have provided
a decent answer. If you are not going to provide that requested example,
IMO, you have nothing to say worth listening to. So Gene, please, put
up or shut up, and please stop jerking us off.
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Gene Fuller wrote:
Give us one example where forward and reverse waves "cause" a standing
wave, and then prove that it's not the other way 'round.

Too easy, Gene. Do a web search. *ALL* demonstrations of standing waves
on the web using javascript have the standing wave *caused* by superposition
of a forward wave and a reverse wave. There are hundreds, if not thousands,
of examples. If standing waves could exist without forward and reflected waves,
don't you think someone of your own steady-state cult would have provided an
example by now?

Again, I challenge you (or anyone else) to provide an example of standing
waves in a transmission line without forward-traveling and rearward-
traveling waves. Is just one example, one tiny example, of what you are
asserting, too much to ask? Apparently it is.
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