On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:17:50 +0000, Channel Jumper wrote:

Think about it - Net time - those old hams - their knobs are set in
stone and they refuse to operate except on that one frequency. It might
as well be channelized.
40 meters - most people won't even turn the knob and you almost never
hear anyone yelling CQ - because the net people has their own little
channel where they talk and when they are done talking - they shut the
radio off.
20 meters on the weekend and evenings is just as bad.

10 meters is so quiet - the only people you get to talk to most times is
someone from somewhere else.
Then when the retarded contests comes along - you can barely find a
place to talk between 28.300 and 28.500 mhz.

80 and 160 meters at night is just as bad. All the cussing and swearing
and sex talk going on.

Then you have these new hams - the ones with the cell phones, the
internet and walkie talkies - because they do not understand how
transmitting works and they refuse to spend any money.

At the same time - you can't buy used equipment anymore, because the
vultures scarfs up all the used equipment they can find from the SK
hams.
Half the times it is sold on flea bay for more then it is worth!

The quality of people - with the CB radio crowd and kids taking it over
- it might as well be CB radio.
You can't teach people who's ears are closed and mouths are open.

At the same time, the doors on the old hams houses might as well be made
out of solid steel - because very few people gets into their shacks and
you definitely don't get to talk on their equipment.

Because the old hams refuses to teach the new hams, and because some of
the old hams are lousy LIDS and doesn't know how to operate in the first
place - nothing is being taught.

Its hard to teach ham radio to these people who's only radio is a hand
held.
What is there for them to learn except how to program it.

Have you considered a Digital mode? There are still mindless babblers but
at least you don't have to hear them. I run psk31 QRP DX. If I make a QSO
it is very short and to the point.

There is two TNC's on the floor - in a box.
That is probably the best place for them.
As long as people thinks that the only reason for APRS is to play Where's Waldo - there is no use putting up the antenna and turning it on.

It looks to me like I hurt some of the forum retards feelings.
I guess there is more then one person on this forum - who's only transceiver is a walkie talkie or that uses echo link to get their radio fix - because they are too cheap or too poor to go out and buy a real radio.

A forum name can be what ever you want.
I could post my call sign - but that wouldn't prove who I am - just that I am a licensed amateur.
Even that does not tell the whole story - since I have been around this longer then what most people who calls themselves old hams has been.

The purpose of most nets is to reserve a certain frequency at a certain time so retards who are mindless and cannot make a QSO or take traffic can get on the air and say their call sign and no traffic and feel like real hams.

Most of them goes into panic mode when you try to pass traffic.
Even the PA 80 meter phone and traffic net is mostly made up of people like that.
So the only thing we can do is wait and see if these people will someday die off and the net die's due to a lack of participation and we get rid of many of these useless / unnecessary nets.

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Have you considered a Digital mode? There are still mindless babblers but
at least you don't have to hear them. I run psk31 QRP DX. If I make a QSO
it is very short and to the point.[/quote]

OLIVIA is what the world is going to as far as RACES is concerned.

I have the equipment here to do so, but can't see the point, since it wouldn't be much different then using the internet - except that there isn't any internet or wires involved - other then the transceiver and the antenna.

"David Quest" wrote in message
...
It's alive and well......Spread the word

Doing my best. I'm the President of my local club, Elmer to several and our
FD Chairman.

"Sal"
(KD6VKW)

Just moved into a Senior's Lodge and am waiting for some new
gear I purchased to arrive. I'll be QRP but was always a QRP advocate
and seldom ran more than a few watts. It's going to be tricky here and
I will have to use all my experience and expertise to get some form of
invisible or very low profile antenna out of my window which has
a small opening. I should have everything ready to go in a month or so.

Irv VE6BP

54 years of endless fun on ham radio!


"David Quest" wrote in message
...
It's alive and well......Spread the word

50+ years & going stronger than ever!
Antennas, PSK, SDR, the current favorite areas.
Some places have a higher noise level than others. What are called
Trolls now were LIDs way back, easy to outflank.

Where ever you go, you will be as happy as you choose to be.
I plan to live until I die!

See y'all at the meeting, Hamfest, Church or where ever.
de W8CCW


On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:57:18 -0600, "Irv Finkleman"
wrote:

Just moved into a Senior's Lodge and am waiting for some new
gear I purchased to arrive. I'll be QRP but was always a QRP advocate
and seldom ran more than a few watts. It's going to be tricky here and
I will have to use all my experience and expertise to get some form of
invisible or very low profile antenna out of my window which has
a small opening. I should have everything ready to go in a month or so.

Irv VE6BP

54 years of endless fun on ham radio!


"David Quest" wrote in message
...
It's alive and well......Spread the word


John Ferrell W8CCW

On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:01:51 -0700 (PDT), David Quest
wrote:

It's alive and well......Spread the word

W......O......R......D

Is that sufficiently spread out?

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Ye, that is correct...... Thank you

....got it...thanks for the info.....