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Ground Rod Removal
I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is
this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY |
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:19:40 GMT, "Gary Boyer"
wrote: I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods Hi Gary, Leave them alone and add new ones. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
Gary Boyer wrote:
I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY Highly depends on the rods and what you have access to. One method that may work for you is a bumper jack and a piece of chain to the rods; if you can secure the chain to the rod, you can usually jack them out far enough you can pull them by hand. Usually its easier to just pound them down. -- Jim Pennino Remove -spam-sux to reply. |
Gary Boyer wrote:
I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY Tie a piece of chain around them and pull them loose with a car jack. Works like a charm. You normally just have to get them a little loose and the rest is easy. I've done it a few times with 10 ft copper clad steel rods. Irv VE6BP -- -------------------------------------- Diagnosed Type II Diabetes March 5 2001 Beating it with diet and exercise! 297/215/210 (to be revised lower) 58"/43"(!)/44" (already lower too!) -------------------------------------- Visit my HomePage at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv/ Visit my Baby Sofia website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv4/ Visit my OLDTIMERS website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv5/ -------------------- Irv Finkleman, Grampa/Ex-Navy/Old Fart/Ham Radio VE6BP Calgary, Alberta, Canada |
What the other people have suggested sound like good ideas for pulling a
ground rod. Something that might make it a little bit easier before pulling them with the chain and jack is to put a pipe wrench on the rod and turn it in the ground a few times. That way the bond between the dirt and the rod is broken and it should pull up a little bit easier. In fact, while you are turning the rod, you might try pulling up on it a little bit at the same time like you are unscrewing it from the ground. |
Gary Boyer wrote:
I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY Showing my Ham age here. . . in the late 60's early 70's was suggested that you an old style car jack. Figure some way to latch the ground rod to the lifting lip of the jack and start cranking. Mike N0QFV |
Use your common sense and buy some new ones. How does anyone else know if
YOUR earth rods will be difficult to remove! "Gary Boyer" wrote in message ... I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 02/06/2004 |
"Allan Butler" wrote in message news:jdLvc.1838$Sw.219@attbi_s51... What the other people have suggested sound like good ideas for pulling a ground rod. Something that might make it a little bit easier before pulling them with the chain and jack is to put a pipe wrench on the rod and turn it in the ground a few times. That way the bond between the dirt and the rod is broken and it should pull up a little bit easier. In fact, while you are turning the rod, you might try pulling up on it a little bit at the same time like you are unscrewing it from the ground. This works! Have did it for years, never had a problem. Jim |
When I moved from Massachusetts to NH I just pounded them into the
ground about 2 to 3 inches below earth level. Gary Boyer wrote: I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY |
Dave Shrader wrote:
When I moved from Massachusetts to NH I just pounded them into the ground about 2 to 3 inches below earth level. I'm too cheap to give up my copper clad steel ground rods! Removal is really simple using a car jack and a piece of chain. To hook the chain on the rod, just put a clamp on the rod temporarily. It's actually very simple and I'm surprised at all the discussion. -- -------------------------------------- Diagnosed Type II Diabetes March 5 2001 Beating it with diet and exercise! 297/215/210 (to be revised lower) 58"/43"(!)/44" (already lower too!) -------------------------------------- Visit my HomePage at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv/ Visit my Baby Sofia website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv4/ Visit my OLDTIMERS website at http://members.shaw.ca/finkirv5/ -------------------- Irv Finkleman, Grampa/Ex-Navy/Old Fart/Ham Radio VE6BP Calgary, Alberta, Canada |
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:28:48 GMT, Irv Finkleman
wrote: It's actually very simple and I'm surprised at all the discussion. Hi Irv, You must've forgotten all the elaborate discussion from Reggie about how much time the rod needs to become intimate with the surrounding mud (the same mud whose carefully crafted RF recipe remains a secret hidden beneath his apron). Strangely enough, the topic bears all the mystique of the aging of wine in charcoal casks. Can you imagine the argument turning on if you disturb the bottle - er - ground rod, it could stir up the sediment or make the vintage go corky? Ever try to decant a bottle with a loop of chain and a bumper jack? (Actually I think we tried that with a jug of Sangria along the Russian River north of 'Frisco back in '69.) 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
If you use 5/8 inch garden hose, just slip the hose over the top of the rod
and turn on the water. As the flowing water digs around the rod, keep pushing the hose farther down along the rod (and into the ground). After you have about 4 feet of hose into the ground, the rod can be lifted out by hand. -- -larry K8UT "Gary Boyer" wrote in message ... I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY |
Just wanted to mention that at N6RK in the CA central
valley, we have "cemented hard pan". Like regular hard pan, only it's water proof. It will stall a D9 Cat if you try to plow it. We tried all the techniques for rod removal suggested including soaking it with drip irrigation for 2 weeks. A pipe wrench simply twists the rod, like a torsion bar. The bottom part doesn't budge. Anyway, around here, once they're in, they ain't coming out. BTW, to get it in, it goes in 1/16 of an inch for each hit of a T-post driver, if you're lucky. Rick "Larry Gauthier (K8UT)" wrote in message ... If you use 5/8 inch garden hose, just slip the hose over the top of the rod and turn on the water. As the flowing water digs around the rod, keep pushing the hose farther down along the rod (and into the ground). After you have about 4 feet of hose into the ground, the rod can be lifted out by hand. -- -larry K8UT "Gary Boyer" wrote in message ... I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY |
If there's enough sticking up to drive it down about a 1/2" or so that'll
loosen it so you jack it out with a bumper jack. If not dig a moat around it to get room. Friction of a small chain wrapped around a few times should hold it, use a small plank if the soil is soft to keep the jack ffrom sinking.. Lubing the moat with water the day before will help. -- 73 Hank WD5JFR "Gary Boyer" wrote in message ... I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY |
Pound 'em down (say 4-6" below surface, then backfill the hole) and buy new
ones. They're cheap and if they've been in the ground any time they'll 1) probably be hard as hell to pull and 2) probably have corroded to the point where new ones would be well worth the $. 73, Carl - wk3c "Gary Boyer" wrote in message ... I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY |
Pound 'em down (say 4-6" below surface, then backfill the hole) and buy
new ones. They're cheap and if they've been in the ground any time they'll 1) probably be hard as hell to pull and 2) probably have corroded to the point where new ones would be well worth the $. 73, Carl - wk3c Agreed. If the idea is to pound in the old rod somewhere else, and is intended for radio ground purposes only, then it is much better left where it is. A single ground rod is practically useless for radio purposes. Unless immersed in salt sea water it is equivalent to a single shallow buried radial wire of slightly greater length. Just measure the resistance of one in average sort of soil at about 2 MHz. Use a hand-held antenna analyser on the impedance range and a bottom-loaded resonant vertical antenna. Or mess about with a pair of rods spaced apart 3 times their depth. You can crudely estimate local soil resistivity (or conductivity) by such means. Kneeling down, however, to read the meter in cold damp stoney soil can result in house-maid's knees. If you are short-sighted, as I am, then you have to lie on your belly. Keep all test leads short. The arithmetic is fairly simple. I can't understand why so many of you have never done it. === Reg, G4FGQ |
A fence pold remover can be used. One can be had at Home Depot or Lowes for
several "clams" -- "Gary Boyer" wrote in message ... I have two ground rods I am thinking about moving to another location, is this practical or would it be easier to just poundem in the ground and buy new rods....does anyone have an easy method for taking the rods out of the ground...I am not interested in building any equipment to do this removal project...please advise..thanks..Gary, K8BY |
If you have or know someone who has a "handy man" jack they work great for
pulling ground rods, have done it many times. K7SAM |
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