On Apr 19, 3:13*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
I also belive in each Tesla's word. He discovered that in his secondary coil
is the oscillatory electron flow from the earth into the air.
Why is it impossible?

Because RF EM waves are not made up of electrons. The particles that
are flowing in an RF EM wave are photons. RF waves travel at the speed
of light. Electrons cannot travel at the speed of light. If Tesla
actually believed that an RF wave consists of electron flow, he was
simply ignorant of quantum electrodynamics. That may be the reason why
he failed to transfer large amounts of power through the air in an
efficient manner.
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73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

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On Apr 19, 3:13 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
I also belive in each Tesla's word. He discovered that in his secondary
coil
is the oscillatory electron flow from the earth into the air.
Why is it impossible?

Because RF EM waves are not made up of electrons. The particles that
are flowing in an RF EM wave are photons. RF waves travel at the speed
of light. Electrons cannot travel at the speed of light.

Electron waves travel. Electrons have different speeds like the all gases.

If Tesla
actually believed that an RF wave consists of electron flow, he was
simply ignorant of quantum electrodynamics. That may be the reason why
he failed to transfer large amounts of power through the air in an
efficient manner.

He wrote that for this you must use the higher frequency than was possible
in his time.
Now all transfer large amounts of power through the air in an efficient
manner.
Light is an example. But now we have the free electron laser.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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On Apr 19, 3:13 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
I also belive in each Tesla's word. He discovered that in his secondary
coil
is the oscillatory electron flow from the earth into the air.
Why is it impossible?

Because RF EM waves are not made up of electrons. The particles that
are flowing in an RF EM wave are photons. RF waves travel at the speed
of light. Electrons cannot travel at the speed of light.

Electron waves travel. Electrons have different speeds like the all gases.

There are no "Electron waves".

Comparing free electrons to gases is idiotic.

If Tesla
actually believed that an RF wave consists of electron flow, he was
simply ignorant of quantum electrodynamics. That may be the reason why
he failed to transfer large amounts of power through the air in an
efficient manner.

He wrote that for this you must use the higher frequency than was possible
in his time.

Nonsense.

Now all transfer large amounts of power through the air in an efficient
manner.

More nonsense.

Light is an example. But now we have the free electron laser.

Yet more nonsense.

You are a babbling idiot.

On Apr 19, 12:39*pm, wrote:
There are no "Electron waves".

Probably not in ham radio but a single electron exhibits the same wave
behavior as a photon in double-slit experiments, i.e. a single
electron seems to go through both slits and interfere with itself on
the other side. That is wave behavior. Strangely enough, a single very
large Buckyball exhibits similar wave behavior.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

W5DXP wrote:
On Apr 19, 12:39Â*pm, wrote:
There are no "Electron waves".

Probably not in ham radio but a single electron exhibits the same wave
behavior as a photon in double-slit experiments, i.e. a single
electron seems to go through both slits and interfere with itself on
the other side. That is wave behavior. Strangely enough, a single very
large Buckyball exhibits similar wave behavior.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com


While I do not disagree with what you said, note the 's' in "Electron waves".

A particle may have some wave properties but that does not make it a wave.

On Apr 19, 9:56*pm, wrote:
A particle may have some wave properties but that does not make it a wave..

It makes it possess the wave-particle duality function. There is
nothing in physics to prohibit electron waves traveling at sub-light
speeds. But it is impossible for an electron wave to travel at the
speed of light. Yet we know that RF waves travel at the speed of
light. Therefore, RF waves cannot be made up of electrons. Here's two
of many web pages about electron waves:

http://www.rodenburg.org/theory/y100.html

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/debrog.html

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On Apr 19, 9:56 pm, wrote:
A particle may have some wave properties but that does not make it a
wave.

It makes it possess the wave-particle duality function.

"the wave-particle duality" is used only in textbooks.

There is
nothing in physics to prohibit electron waves traveling at sub-light
speeds.

Electron waves travel in the Dirac electron sea with the speed of light.
Like the sound waves in the air.

In space are ions and electrons (rare plasma).
Electron waves travel from the Sun about 8 minute and the acoustic (ion
waves) a few days.
S*

On Apr 19, 11:15*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Electron waves travel.

No doubt, and please give an example of an electron wave. One more
time. It is impossible for electrons to travel at the speed of light.
But RF EM waves travel at the speed of light. Therefore, it is
impossible for RF waves to consist of electrons. Electrons act as a
bucket brigade for "buckets" of photons.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

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On Apr 19, 11:15 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
Electron waves travel.

No doubt, and please give an example of an electron wave.

"Waves in plasmas can be classified as electromagnetic or electrostatic
according to whether or not there is an oscillating magnetic field. Applying
Faraday's law of induction to plane waves, we find , implying that an
electrostatic wave must be purely longitudinal. An electromagnetic wave, in
contrast, must have a transverse component, but may also be partially
longitudinal." " A plasma is a quasineutral, electrically conductive fluid.
In the simplest case, it is composed of electrons and a single species of
positive ions," From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro...classification

One more
time. It is impossible for electrons to travel at the speed of light.
But RF EM waves travel at the speed of light. Therefore, it is
impossible for RF waves to consist of electrons. Electrons act as a
bucket brigade for "buckets" of photons.

In the space is the rare plasma. There are the acoustic waves and the
electron waves.
S*