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On Apr 20, 2:50 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
What is the source of the heat in microwave oven?

The Big Bang is the source of all energy in the universe.
Microwave photons are the immediate cause of heating in a microwave
oven.

Photons are the wave packets. It apply only to natural light and the damped
radio waves.

Todays radio waves are continuous.

If you don't believe that photons can cause heating, go stand in
front of an active radar dish.

There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:
If you don't believe that photons can cause heating, go stand in
front of an active radar dish.

There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".
S*

No. The same effect occurs when you put the dish in vacuum.

"Rob" napisal w wiadomosci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
If you don't believe that photons can cause heating, go stand in
front of an active radar dish.

There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".
S*

No. The same effect occurs when you put the dish in vacuum.

In vacuum is rare plasma (ions and electrons). Plasma is a conductor.
The electrons are free to move.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisal w wiadomosci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
If you don't believe that photons can cause heating, go stand in
front of an active radar dish.

There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".
S*

No. The same effect occurs when you put the dish in vacuum.

In vacuum is rare plasma (ions and electrons). Plasma is a conductor.
The electrons are free to move.
S*

If the propagation of electromagnetic waves would be dependent on
residual electrons present in the imperfect vacuum (like in space),
there would be a tendency for propagation to become worse when the vacuum
would be more and more perfect. There is no such effect ever observed.

"Rob" napisal w wiadomosci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisal w wiadomosci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
If you don't believe that photons can cause heating, go stand in
front of an active radar dish.

There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".
S*

No. The same effect occurs when you put the dish in vacuum.

In vacuum is rare plasma (ions and electrons). Plasma is a conductor.
The electrons are free to move.
S*

If the propagation of electromagnetic waves would be dependent on
residual electrons present in the imperfect vacuum (like in space),
there would be a tendency for propagation to become worse when the vacuum
would be more and more perfect. There is no such effect ever observed.

Up to now we see distant stars. The plasma is produced by stars. So we are
not in perfect vacuum.
My be that such is behind the last star.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Up to now we see distant stars. The plasma is produced by stars. So we are
not in perfect vacuum.
My be that such is behind the last star.
S*

This is meaningless, babbling gibberish.

On Apr 20, 10:59*am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
(re radar) There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".

Sorry about your theory but radar signals travel at the speed of
light, a feat that is impossible for electrons.
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73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

"W5DXP" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Apr 20, 10:59 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
(re radar) There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".

Sorry about your theory but radar signals travel at the speed of
light, a feat that is impossible for electrons.

Wind is like the electron beam. They travel with the "wind' speed.
The sound and electron waves like the oscillating species (electrons or
molecules). They travel with the wave speed.
S*

"Jeff" napisal w wiadomosci
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On 21/04/2012 07:57, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
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On Apr 20, 10:59 am, "Szczepan wrote:
(re radar) There are the "oscilltory flow of electrons".

Sorry about your theory but radar signals travel at the speed of
light, a feat that is impossible for electrons.

Wind is like the electron beam. They travel with the "wind' speed.
The sound and electron waves like the oscillating species (electrons or
molecules). They travel with the wave speed.
S*

So you are saying that Einstein was wrong when he stated that "E=mc2"?

It has been demonstrated that electrons have mass, but for them to travel
at the speed of light as radio signals do that mass would be infinite!!

The air molecules travel with the speed of the wind. But they oscillate if
there is the sound source.
The speed of sound and the speed the wind are the different things.

The same is with the electron waves speed and the electron beam speed.

Are you cleverer than Einstein??

Einstein is not one of the radio fathers.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Einstein is not one of the radio fathers.

Einstein is the person most responsible for proving that a lot of what the
"radio fathers" wrote is wrong.