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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:03:12 -0000, wrote:

Solar flare effects at ground level are magnetic effects.

Thanks. There's an all too common misconception that the engergetic
charged particles produced by solar flares, solar storms, solar wind,
CME's, etc somehow land on the power lines, which then appears as a DC
voltage on the lines. That's not how it works at ground level. This
explains it better than I could:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetically_induced_current

In the teaching program the stationary electron create the electric field.
The same electron during travel create the magnetic field.

Meaningless babble.

So should be obvious for you that if you detect the magnetic field it means
that close to you is the electron flow.

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

No magnetic field without the electron flow.

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

In physics "magnetic effects" = electron flow.

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

If you detect the magnetic field it means that the electrons "land on the
power lines, which then appears as a DC voltage on the lines."

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

Faraday and Marconi did not go to schools.
Would be better the same for you.
S*

Obviously you have never been to school.

You are a babbling idiot.

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Do you know same examples of using the Epsom salt?

Yes.

http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2...2/sylvia-dies/

Is about the sodium bicarbonate. Epsom salt is a magnesium sulfate:

Somebody wrote:
"I then pursued the candida angle and read that
magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts) saturated solution in water is deadly to
almost any fungus/yeast. Well, after 1 week of applying this it has sorted
out my basal cell and removed it completely. That stuff is dirt cheap and
works."

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.
S*

If you develop cancer, PLEASE refuse modern medical treatment and go with
epsom salts.

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napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:03:12 -0000, wrote:

Solar flare effects at ground level are magnetic effects.

Thanks. There's an all too common misconception that the engergetic
charged particles produced by solar flares, solar storms, solar wind,
CME's, etc somehow land on the power lines, which then appears as a DC
voltage on the lines. That's not how it works at ground level. This
explains it better than I could:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetically_induced_current

In the teaching program the stationary electron create the electric
field.
The same electron during travel create the magnetic field.

Meaningless babble.

So should be obvious for you that if you detect the magnetic field it
means
that close to you is the electron flow.

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

The Solenoid is a magnet.
Probably in the permanent magnet are many solenoids (Ampere).

No magnetic field without the electron flow.

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

In physics "magnetic effects" = electron flow.

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

If you detect the magnetic field it means that the electrons "land on the
power lines, which then appears as a DC voltage on the lines."

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

Faraday and Marconi did not go to schools.
Would be better the same for you.
S*

Obviously you have never been to school.

In schools are fields.
In reality are the electrons.
The Suns is the bigger transmitter of the electron waves.
S*

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:03:12 -0000, wrote:

Solar flare effects at ground level are magnetic effects.

Thanks. There's an all too common misconception that the engergetic
charged particles produced by solar flares, solar storms, solar wind,
CME's, etc somehow land on the power lines, which then appears as a DC
voltage on the lines. That's not how it works at ground level. This
explains it better than I could:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetically_induced_current

In the teaching program the stationary electron create the electric
field.
The same electron during travel create the magnetic field.

Meaningless babble.

So should be obvious for you that if you detect the magnetic field it
means
that close to you is the electron flow.

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

The Solenoid is a magnet.

A solenoid is not a permanent magnet.

Probably in the permanent magnet are many solenoids (Ampere).

There are no solenoids in a permanent magnet.

No magnetic field without the electron flow.

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

In physics "magnetic effects" = electron flow.

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

If you detect the magnetic field it means that the electrons "land on the
power lines, which then appears as a DC voltage on the lines."

Nope; ever heard of a permanent magnet?

Faraday and Marconi did not go to schools.
Would be better the same for you.
S*

Obviously you have never been to school.

In schools are fields.
In reality are the electrons.
The Suns is the bigger transmitter of the electron waves.

Babbling, menaingless, gibberish.

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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
...

"Sal M. O'Nella"

The commercial power in my neighborhood has an asymmetric waveform. Some
of us have been saving the extra electrons on one-half-cycle.

The extra electrons flow into the ground. Like in your radios.
S*

True. However, to be of any future use, they must be captured before this
can happen. I'm keeping mine on a shelf in the back pantry. The first box
is nearly full.

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On 6/4/2012 3:42 AM, Ian wrote:
"Szczepan wrote in message
...
Faraday and Marconi did not go to schools.
Would be better the same for you.
S*

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Marconi

" ... Marconi was educated privately in Bologna in the lab of Augusto
Righi, in Florence at the Istituto Cavallero and, later, in Livorno. As a
child Marconi did not do well in school ...".




And Sz... is nuttier than a fruitcake. I wondered before, but now it's
obvious after the chemistry lesson.

tom

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"Sal M. O'Nella" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
...

"Sal M. O'Nella"

The commercial power in my neighborhood has an asymmetric waveform.
Some of us have been saving the extra electrons on one-half-cycle.

The extra electrons flow into the ground. Like in your radios.
S*

True. However, to be of any future use, they must be captured before this
can happen. I'm keeping mine on a shelf in the back pantry. The first
box is nearly full.

A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

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napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Do you know same examples of using the Epsom salt?

Yes.

http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2...2/sylvia-dies/

Is about the sodium bicarbonate. Epsom salt is a magnesium sulfate:

Somebody wrote:
"I then pursued the candida angle and read that
magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts) saturated solution in water is deadly to
almost any fungus/yeast. Well, after 1 week of applying this it has
sorted
out my basal cell and removed it completely. That stuff is dirt cheap and
works."

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.
S*

If you develop cancer, PLEASE refuse modern medical treatment and go with
epsom salts.

J. Schnieder (GRAB SADDLE) did it. He was using the saturated solution of
Epsom salt +Vit C.
The National Center Institute Found that " it killed melanoma, renal, brain,
ovarian, leukemia, colon, CNS and 2 types of lung cancer".

I had the melanoma and "go with epsom salts." But I was sure that it is a
"modern medical treatment".
Of course the cancer disappeared after two weeks without a scar.

John Schneider discovered the cancer cure and Grab Saddle.
S*

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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

How about a nice modern compact capacitor?

Regards, Ian.

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On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:16:03 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.

Well, might as well go further off topic. I'll make it quick and
painless.

In about 2006, I discovered that I had prostate cancer. I had some
time, so I elected watchful waiting, while I shopped around for
alternatives to conventional cancer treatments. I settled on 3 rather
popular treatments and tried them all with religious adherence to
their recommended procedures and strictures. Nothing worked, and my
PSA score continued to climb:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/psa.jpg
(The big peak in 2007 was from the effects of a kidney stone.) As I
approached meltdown, I finally elected to have my prostate surgically
removed. A year later, I had to go through radiation treatment to
clean up the mess because I had waited a bit too long.

During this exercise, I learned a few things about alternative
medicine and cancer.
1. There are plenty of people that do absolutely nothing and have the
cancer miraculously disappear. It's more common than I suspected. I
know two such people.
2. History is written by the survivors. The failures of any
alternative procedure is unlikely to write a report indicating that
they had died from the procedure. Those that survived, and where the
alternative treatment failed, are unlikely to report the failure. Of
course, the proponents of the alternative treatment are unlikely to
mention failures. The result is the overwhelming number of user
comments on alternative treatment web sites are positive.
3. There are huge number of scams and disreputable medical schemes on
the internet. There are also credible looking research reports, which
offer conclusions not substantiated by any data. Some reports go so
far as to be self-contradictory. I found one that couldn't even get
the arithmetic correct.
4. The way to separate the scams from real research is to determine
if the author has a financial interest in the procedure. If they're
selling a book, potion, drug, procedure, or have a political agenda,
then they should be ignored. What's left are usually government and
university financed studies.
5. Alternative medicine certainly has its benefits. In general, it's
a great way to clean up a bad lifestyle. Living on junk food, not
getting enough exercise, and high stress all have their effects.
However, the price of alternative medicine might be delaying
conventional treatment, which often has fatal results. That's roughly
what happened to Steve Jobs, who delayed pancreatic cancer surgery a
bit too long.

Feel free to try Mr Bialek's recommended treatments. However, have
your exit strategy ready in case they fail.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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"Ian" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

How about a nice modern compact capacitor?

It should be with the low leakage. The Leyden jar has a thick insulation.
And,

"Any type of capacitor may develop excessive leakage if the capacitor is
subjected to excessive applied voltage or high-voltage spikes."

..It was known in Marconi time:
"It is now perfectly well known that a condenser, if large enough, does not
prevent the passage of high frequency oscillations, and therefore in these
cases
the earth is for all practical purposes connected to the antennae." (Marconi
1909).

In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC but do
not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.
S*

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"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:16:03 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

Before I have read that J. Schneider used the Epsom salt to cancer cure.

Well, might as well go further off topic. I'll make it quick and
painless.

In about 2006, I discovered that I had prostate cancer. I had some
time, so I elected watchful waiting, while I shopped around for
alternatives to conventional cancer treatments.

J. Schneider published his results in 2006 after 15 years of experiments.
The National Cancer Institute confirmed it.
Your "alternatives" were the old ones.

But J. Schneider wrote:
"I have no idea if my body was unique in its response to this agent
(saturated solution of Epsom salt + Vit C).
It is obvious that that much more laboratory and clinic testing is necessary
before anyone could recomended this agent to anyone else for their use".

Now I know that my body is also unique.

I settled on 3 rather
popular treatments and tried them all with religious adherence to
their recommended procedures and strictures. Nothing worked, and my
PSA score continued to climb:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/psa.jpg
(The big peak in 2007 was from the effects of a kidney stone.) As I
approached meltdown, I finally elected to have my prostate surgically
removed. A year later, I had to go through radiation treatment to
clean up the mess because I had waited a bit too long.

During this exercise, I learned a few things about alternative
medicine and cancer.
1. There are plenty of people that do absolutely nothing and have the
cancer miraculously disappear. It's more common than I suspected. I
know two such people.
2. History is written by the survivors. The failures of any
alternative procedure is unlikely to write a report indicating that
they had died from the procedure. Those that survived, and where the
alternative treatment failed, are unlikely to report the failure. Of
course, the proponents of the alternative treatment are unlikely to
mention failures. The result is the overwhelming number of user
comments on alternative treatment web sites are positive.
3. There are huge number of scams and disreputable medical schemes on
the internet. There are also credible looking research reports, which
offer conclusions not substantiated by any data. Some reports go so
far as to be self-contradictory. I found one that couldn't even get
the arithmetic correct.
4. The way to separate the scams from real research is to determine
if the author has a financial interest in the procedure. If they're
selling a book, potion, drug, procedure, or have a political agenda,
then they should be ignored. What's left are usually government and
university financed studies.
5. Alternative medicine certainly has its benefits. In general, it's
a great way to clean up a bad lifestyle. Living on junk food, not
getting enough exercise, and high stress all have their effects.
However, the price of alternative medicine might be delaying
conventional treatment, which often has fatal results. That's roughly
what happened to Steve Jobs, who delayed pancreatic cancer surgery a
bit too long.

I agree with you in 100%.

But the J. Schneider cancer cure is not an alternative.
It is tested in the National Institutions.

Feel free to try Mr Bialek's recommended treatments. However, have
your exit strategy ready in case they fail.

Not my but John Schneider who discovered the cancer cure and Grab Saddle.
S*

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Ian" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

How about a nice modern compact capacitor?

It should be with the low leakage. The Leyden jar has a thick insulation.
And,

"Any type of capacitor may develop excessive leakage if the capacitor is
subjected to excessive applied voltage or high-voltage spikes."

.It was known in Marconi time:
"It is now perfectly well known that a condenser, if large enough, does not
prevent the passage of high frequency oscillations, and therefore in these
cases
the earth is for all practical purposes connected to the antennae." (Marconi
1909).

In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC but do
not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.
S*

What an utter idiot.

Who wants to try to explain to this babbling idiot that the impedance of
a capacitor is 1 / ( 2 X pi X f X C) which means if f is zero (DC) the
impedance is infinite and there is no conduction (in an ideal capacitor).

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Now I know that my body is also unique.

Especially your brain; it is totally unlike a human brain.

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On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:55:49 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

J. Schneider published his results in 2006 after 15 years of experiments.
The National Cancer Institute confirmed it.
Your "alternatives" were the old ones.

The NCI doesn't confirm anything or do any research or experiments.
They're a government organization that catalogs, organizes, and
reports on other peoples and organizations research. The only place
where the NCI funds reports are for maintaining the statistical
database and running regular surveys of best practices and research
trends. I believe (not sure) that they also insist on peer reviewed
research.

Searching cancer.gov and scholar.google.com for "J. Schneider epsom
salt", I find nothing. URL please? Any double blind clinical trials?



--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .

"Sal M. O'Nella" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
...

"Sal M. O'Nella"

The commercial power in my neighborhood has an asymmetric waveform.
Some of us have been saving the extra electrons on one-half-cycle.

The extra electrons flow into the ground. Like in your radios.
S*

True. However, to be of any future use, they must be captured before
this can happen. I'm keeping mine on a shelf in the back pantry. The
first box is nearly full.

A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

The Leyden jar is small. Holds only a few dozen coulombs. Shoebox holds
hundreds and I already have plenty of shoeboxes, plus friends who have
shoeboxes. The lid needs to be taped down or the mutual repulsion of the
electrons will push it up and off.

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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
...


In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC but
do not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.
S*

I'll take that into account the next time I'm connecting a bleeder across a
power supply output. Now that I know a capacitor will work ...

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"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
...

Well, might as well go further off topic. I'll make it quick and
painless.

In about 2006, I discovered that I had prostate cancer.

I got the bad news in 2005, after several years of a rising and falling PSA
and one negative biopsy in July of 2004. I had been watching news for
prostate cancer, so I knew what the treatments were, who was using them and
what the success rates were. (Now, seven years "down the pike," things may
be different; my perspective reflects best practices as of my diagnosis.)

I opted for surgery. When my urologist asked what I wanted to do, I already
knew. I said, "I want it out with the da Vinci robot."

He said, "We have that."

I said, "I know." I had read that my provider had gotten the first robot in
San Diego earlier that year. I was referred to the surgeon who bought the
robot and was accepted as a candidate. Six weeks later, done. PSA
undetectable ever since; he got it all. Officially "cured" in another
fifteen months, eight years post-op. I was probably lucky in many regards.
The urologist was aggressive and he admitted it.

He said, "I do more biopsies than anybody I know. It means I catch more
cancers." (The biopsy has some slight pain associted with it but it's only
mildly uncomfortable. I'd take a dozen in preference to having a tooth
capped, for example."

My provider, having just gotten the robot, didn't require me to ask them to
pay for me to go off-network. My surgeon was the Chief of Surgery who had
moved up through Urology, so he had done thousands of prostatectomies. I go
back to see him every year. He's since been promoted to Chief of Staff but
he still works Urology. Great guy.

"Sal"
(KD6VKW)

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On 5-Jun-2012, "Sal M. O'Nella" wrote:

"Sal M. O'Nella" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
...

"Sal M. O'Nella"

The commercial power in my neighborhood has an asymmetric waveform.
Some of us have been saving the extra electrons on one-half-cycle.

The extra electrons flow into the ground. Like in your radios.
S*

True. However, to be of any future use, they must be captured before
this can happen. I'm keeping mine on a shelf in the back pantry. The
first box is nearly full.

A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

The Leyden jar is small. Holds only a few dozen coulombs. Shoebox holds
hundreds and I already have plenty of shoeboxes, plus friends who have
shoeboxes. The lid needs to be taped down or the mutual repulsion of the
electrons will push it up and off.

I accumulate my electrons in a RubberMade Packer box all year. The box is
big and well insulated
and also holds my Field Day radio and antennas. In June, I take it to the FD
site all charged up
and ready for Qs.
--
Ken Fowler, KO6NO

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wrote in message
...

On 5-Jun-2012, "Sal M. O'Nella" wrote:

"Sal M. O'Nella" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
...

"Sal M. O'Nella"

The commercial power in my neighborhood has an asymmetric waveform.
Some of us have been saving the extra electrons on one-half-cycle.

The extra electrons flow into the ground. Like in your radios.
S*

True. However, to be of any future use, they must be captured before
this can happen. I'm keeping mine on a shelf in the back pantry. The
first box is nearly full.

A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

The Leyden jar is small. Holds only a few dozen coulombs. Shoebox holds
hundreds and I already have plenty of shoeboxes, plus friends who have
shoeboxes. The lid needs to be taped down or the mutual repulsion of the
electrons will push it up and off.

I accumulate my electrons in a RubberMade Packer box all year. The box is
big and well insulated
and also holds my Field Day radio and antennas. In June, I take it to the
FD
site all charged up
and ready for Qs.
--
Ken Fowler, KO6NO

Gee! I Wish I'd thought of that. I love this group -- I learn
something new every day!

Irv VE6BP :-)

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"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:55:49 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

J. Schneider published his results in 2006 after 15 years of experiments.
The National Cancer Institute confirmed it.
Your "alternatives" were the old ones.

The NCI doesn't confirm anything or do any research or experiments.
They're a government organization that catalogs, organizes, and
reports on other peoples and organizations research. The only place
where the NCI funds reports are for maintaining the statistical
database and running regular surveys of best practices and research
trends. I believe (not sure) that they also insist on peer reviewed
research.

Searching cancer.gov and scholar.google.com for "J. Schneider epsom
salt", I find nothing. URL please? Any double blind clinical trials?

I have come accros Epsom salt in 2007.
The most interesting was Schneider's "CANCER CURE PAGE".
It starts it words: "I mix my cancer cure as i explain in item #4 on this
"CANCER CURE PAGE"
I have the printout but without URL.
Two years ago I have lost the all what was on my PC.

Schneider did not write why the Epsom salt cure cancers. So it was
interesting for me the two steatments:
"ALL cancer is a funge" and "that
magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts) saturated solution in water is deadly to
almost any fungus/yeast. Well, after 1 week of applying this it has sorted
out my basal cell and removed it completely. That stuff is dirt cheap and
works."

It is known since XVI century that Epsom salt cures all skin problems.

Todey I found:
"
Sea Salt Water Drink -
Dr. F. Batmanghelidj MD believes that salt is vital for theprevention and
treatment of the cancer. Cancer cells - he explains- cannotleave in an
oxygenated environment. When the body is well hydrated and saltexpends the
volume of blood circulation to reach all parts of the body, theoxygen and
active immune cells in the blood reach the cancerous tissue anddestroy it.
All refined salt should be discarded as its harmful to the body"


Unrefined sea salt has many Mg and S ions.


Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

S*

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napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Ian" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

How about a nice modern compact capacitor?

It should be with the low leakage. The Leyden jar has a thick insulation.
And,

"Any type of capacitor may develop excessive leakage if the capacitor is
subjected to excessive applied voltage or high-voltage spikes."

.It was known in Marconi time:
"It is now perfectly well known that a condenser, if large enough, does
not
prevent the passage of high frequency oscillations, and therefore in
these
cases
the earth is for all practical purposes connected to the antennae."
(Marconi
1909).

In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC but
do
not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.
S*

What an utter idiot.

Who wants to try to explain to this babbling idiot that the impedance of
a capacitor is 1 / ( 2 X pi X f X C) which means if f is zero (DC) the
impedance is infinite and there is no conduction (in an ideal capacitor).

You and teachers live in the ideal world where are the ideal capacitors.

Leyden jar has insulator made of glass.
It is possible to make it with insulator "made" of the air.

What will be leakage in such case?
S*

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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC
but
do
not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.
S*

What an utter idiot.

Who wants to try to explain to this babbling idiot that the impedance of
a capacitor is 1 / ( 2 X pi X f X C) which means if f is zero (DC) the
impedance is infinite and there is no conduction (in an ideal capacitor).

You and teachers live in the ideal world where are the ideal capacitors.

Leyden jar has insulator made of glass.
It is possible to make it with insulator "made" of the air.

What will be leakage in such case?
S*

Errr ... if your computer used capacitors with air dielectric then I doubt
we'd hear from you again.

If it helps you, capacitors pass AC and block DC.

Regards, Ian.

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Sea Salt Water Drink -
Dr. F. Batmanghelidj MD believes that salt is vital for theprevention and
treatment of the cancer. Cancer cells - he explains- cannotleave in an
oxygenated environment. When the body is well hydrated and saltexpends the
volume of blood circulation to reach all parts of the body, theoxygen and
active immune cells in the blood reach the cancerous tissue anddestroy it.
All refined salt should be discarded as its harmful to the body"


Unrefined sea salt has many Mg and S ions.


Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

Drink sea water, lots of it, please.

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...

Who wants to try to explain to this babbling idiot that the impedance of
a capacitor is 1 / ( 2 X pi X f X C) which means if f is zero (DC) the
impedance is infinite and there is no conduction (in an ideal capacitor).

You and teachers live in the ideal world where are the ideal capacitors.

I live in the real world and it is trivial to verify that the impedance
of a capacitor is 1 / ( 2 X pi X f X C).

As usual, you are totally confused.

Leyden jar has insulator made of glass.
It is possible to make it with insulator "made" of the air.

What will be leakage in such case?

Leakage and impedance are two separate things, idiot.

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"Ian" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC
but
do
not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.

If it helps you, capacitors pass AC and block DC.

Each insulator is a weak conductor.
At DC and pulse current electrons are flowing through the insulator
(leakage).
At AC not.

At AC the charging/discharging take place. The electrons flow into plate and
come back.

Charging current and discharging current do not pass or by-pas the
capacitors.
S*

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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
...


Each insulator is a weak conductor.
At DC and pulse current electrons are flowing through the insulator
(leakage).
At AC not.

An insulator is ... an insulator. No leakage. If an insulator is not
insulating then you'd better handle your mains leads with care.

ttfn, Ian.

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On 6/5/2012 9:53 PM, Irv Finkleman wrote:
wrote in message
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On 5-Jun-2012, "Sal M. wrote:

"Sal M. napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...

"Szczepan wrote in message
...

"Sal M.

The commercial power in my neighborhood has an asymmetric waveform.
Some of us have been saving the extra electrons on one-half-cycle.

The extra electrons flow into the ground. Like in your radios.
S*

True. However, to be of any future use, they must be captured before
this can happen. I'm keeping mine on a shelf in the back pantry. The
first box is nearly full.

A box is not the best condenser.
You should use the Leyden jar.
S*

The Leyden jar is small. Holds only a few dozen coulombs. Shoebox holds
hundreds and I already have plenty of shoeboxes, plus friends who have
shoeboxes. The lid needs to be taped down or the mutual repulsion of the
electrons will push it up and off.

I accumulate my electrons in a RubberMade Packer box all year. The box is
big and well insulated
and also holds my Field Day radio and antennas. In June, I take it to the
FD
site all charged up
and ready for Qs.
--
Ken Fowler, KO6NO

Gee! I Wish I'd thought of that. I love this group -- I learn
something new every day!

Irv VE6BP :-)



I used to keep all of my spare electrons in my hair. I would just use a
comb in dry weather to collect them. However, since going bald I have no
more spare electrons..sigh....


Michael

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Ian" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .
In reality the real condenser conducts (electrons are flowing) the DC
but
do
not AC.
In the teaching program is opposite.

If it helps you, capacitors pass AC and block DC.

Each insulator is a weak conductor.
At DC and pulse current electrons are flowing through the insulator
(leakage).
At AC not.

At AC the charging/discharging take place. The electrons flow into plate and
come back.

Charging current and discharging current do not pass or by-pas the
capacitors.
S*


As usual, a pile of babbling nonsense.

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napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Sea Salt Water Drink -
Dr. F. Batmanghelidj MD believes that salt is vital for the prevention
and
treatment of the cancer. Cancer cells - he explains- cannotleave in an
oxygenated environment. When the body is well hydrated and saltexpends
the
volume of blood circulation to reach all parts of the body, theoxygen and
active immune cells in the blood reach the cancerous tissue anddestroy
it.
All refined salt should be discarded as its harmful to the body"


Unrefined sea salt has many Mg and S ions.


Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

Drink sea water, lots of it, please.

It is not available for me: http://oceanwaterinabottle.com/
S*

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"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:55:49 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

J. Schneider published his results in 2006 after 15 years of experiments.

Searching cancer.gov and scholar.google.com for "J. Schneider epsom
salt", I find nothing. URL please? Any double blind clinical trials?

In 2007 it was at: http://www.grabsaddle.com/id27.html

Now it is "for sale".

Is it possible to recovery it?
S*

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Sea Salt Water Drink -
Dr. F. Batmanghelidj MD believes that salt is vital for the prevention
and
treatment of the cancer. Cancer cells - he explains- cannotleave in an
oxygenated environment. When the body is well hydrated and saltexpends
the
volume of blood circulation to reach all parts of the body, theoxygen and
active immune cells in the blood reach the cancerous tissue anddestroy
it.
All refined salt should be discarded as its harmful to the body"


Unrefined sea salt has many Mg and S ions.


Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

Drink sea water, lots of it, please.

It is not available for me: http://oceanwaterinabottle.com/
S*

Last time I looked Poland had coastline on the Baltic Sea.

Take a train/bus/goat cart to the sea along with a big bottle and get
all you want.

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On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:55:18 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
.. .
Searching cancer.gov and scholar.google.com for "J. Schneider epsom
salt", I find nothing. URL please? Any double blind clinical trials?

I have come accros Epsom salt in 2007.

URL please. If you cannot find a suitable published and peer reviewed
research report or clinical trial results, I would consider your
recycled medical advice to be in the same class as your physics. While
there is a tiny possibility that an obscure scientist may have
discovered or rediscovered something profound, the odds are against
this happening. More likely, he's yet another medical fraud.

The most interesting was Schneider's "CANCER CURE PAGE".

URL please. Google didn't find anything. I'm beginning to wonder if
this J. Schneider even exists. All I can find with Google are your
posting proclaiming his miraculous cancer cure.

Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

No. I also have cardiac issues and make an effort to reduce my sodium
salt intake. I rarely add salt to anything (except popcorn).
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/salt.jpg
I prefer to get my beta particles from Potassium salt substitute.


--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:55:49 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

J. Schneider published his results in 2006 after 15 years of experiments.

Searching cancer.gov and scholar.google.com for "J. Schneider epsom
salt", I find nothing. URL please? Any double blind clinical trials?

In 2007 it was at: http://www.grabsaddle.com/id27.html

Now it is "for sale".

Is it possible to recovery it?
S*

How much money do you have?

US dollars, not zloty.

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On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:49:24 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

In 2007 it was at: http://www.grabsaddle.com/id27.html
Now it is "for sale".
Is it possible to recovery it?

Yes, using the wayback machine.
http://archive.org
Only one copy at:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070822225336/http://www.grabsaddle.com/id27.html
I'll read it later. I need to run away and generate some revenue to
support my decadent and lavish lifestyle.



--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:49:24 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

In 2007 it was at: http://www.grabsaddle.com/id27.html
Now it is "for sale".
Is it possible to recovery it?

Yes, using the wayback machine.
http://archive.org
Only one copy at:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070822225336/http://www.grabsaddle.com/id27.html
I'll read it later. I need to run away and generate some revenue to
support my decadent and lavish lifestyle.

The web page is most likely gone because if he ever did have cancer and
treated himself with epsom salts, he is dead now.

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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
...

Charging current and discharging current do not pass or by-pas the
capacitors.
S*

I have a new capacitor design that uses clam chowder as the dielectric.
Interested?

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napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:


Do you use the unrafined sea salt?

Drink sea water, lots of it, please.

It is not available for me: http://oceanwaterinabottle.com/
S*

Last time I looked Poland had coastline on the Baltic Sea.

Take a train/bus/goat cart to the sea along with a big bottle and get
all you want.

The Baltic Sea is like a lake (0.3% of salt).
In oceans is 4%.
S*

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napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:49:24 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

In 2007 it was at: http://www.grabsaddle.com/id27.html
Now it is "for sale".
Is it possible to recovery it?

Yes, using the wayback machine.
http://archive.org
Only one copy at:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070822225336/http://www.grabsaddle.com/id27.html
I'll read it later. I need to run away and generate some revenue to
support my decadent and lavish lifestyle.

The web page is most likely gone because if he ever did have cancer and
treated himself with epsom salts, he is dead now.

All will be dead.
I bet that in the case of J. Schneider the reason will be/was different than
a cancer.
S*

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"Jeff Liebermann" napisal w wiadomosci
...
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:49:24 +0200, "Szczepan Bialek"
wrote:

In 2007 it was at: http://www.grabsaddle.com/id27.html
Now it is "for sale".
Is it possible to recovery it?

Yes, using the wayback machine.
http://archive.org
Only one copy at:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070822225336/http://www.grabsaddle.com/id27.html

Excelent job.

I'll read it later. I need to run away and generate some revenue to
support my decadent and lavish lifestyle.

Now it is the 6 years after publication.
For me the testing is finished ("100% success")
But the official takes a lot of time.
S*