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"bilou" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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Imagine the diameter of one half is infinite.
You now have a quarter wave over a ground plane.A well known case.
Impedance is halved .
Resonnance is only dependant of the remaining wire and unchanged.
Your result should be somewhere between no change and that.
Another similar question :
Instead of burying lots of radials at the base of a vertical
what about digging (or using) a well and having a quarter wave of wire
dropped into it ?

A real well in soil will be the perfect infinite source of electrons.
The well in a dry rock will be most wrong.

The well in the dry rock is used in ULF. But the electrons are pumped from
the wet area.
S*

Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

Szczepan Bialek wrote:
A real well in soil will be the perfect infinite source of electrons.

A source of electrons is not required. Transmitters use AC (alternating
current) so there is no net flow of electrons.

Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Rob" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
A real well in soil will be the perfect infinite source of electrons.

A source of electrons is not required. Transmitters use AC (alternating
current) so there is no net flow of electrons.

AC is in a transformer.
In an antenna is the oscillatory flow of electrons. So there is the net
flow of electrons.

"It is now known that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission.[citation needed] Once liberated, electrons are strongly
repelled by the high electric field near the electrode during negative
voltage peaks from the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil"

Do not you know that?
S*

Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
A real well in soil will be the perfect infinite source of electrons.

A source of electrons is not required. Transmitters use AC (alternating
current) so there is no net flow of electrons.

AC is in a transformer.
In an antenna is the oscillatory flow of electrons. So there is the net
flow of electrons.

"It is now known that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission.[citation needed] Once liberated, electrons are strongly
repelled by the high electric field near the electrode during negative
voltage peaks from the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil"

Do not you know that?
S*

You post nothing but babbling, word salad, nonsense and you are an utter
idiot.

Do you not know that?

Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
A real well in soil will be the perfect infinite source of electrons.

A source of electrons is not required. Transmitters use AC (alternating
current) so there is no net flow of electrons.

AC is in a transformer.
In an antenna is the oscillatory flow of electrons. So there is the net
flow of electrons.

"It is now known that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission.[citation needed] Once liberated, electrons are strongly
repelled by the high electric field near the electrode during negative
voltage peaks from the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil"

Do not you know that?
S*

If that were true, there would be a DC current into a transmitting antenna
fed only by HF (AC) current.
But of course there is no such DC current. If it were there, it would
mean there is nonlinearity in the antenna and there would be severe
intermodulation.

Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .


AC is in a transformer.
In an antenna is the oscillatory flow of electrons. So there is the net
flow of electrons.

"It is now known that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission.[citation needed] Once liberated, electrons are
strongly repelled by the high electric field near the electrode during
negative voltage peaks from the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil"

Do not you know that?
S*

Szczepan seems to be muddling up valves and aerials. I guess there's no
point in trying to explain the difference between the two to him. Didn't he
make a similar posting a few months ago?

73, Ian.

Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

Ian wrote:
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .


AC is in a transformer.
In an antenna is the oscillatory flow of electrons. So there is the net
flow of electrons.

"It is now known that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission.[citation needed] Once liberated, electrons are
strongly repelled by the high electric field near the electrode during
negative voltage peaks from the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil"

Do not you know that?
S*

Szczepan seems to be muddling up valves and aerials. I guess there's no
point in trying to explain the difference between the two to him. Didn't he
make a similar posting a few months ago?

73, Ian.

He has been posting his idiotic crap for years and years both here and in
sci.phyics.electromag.

No matter what you tell him his response will be a pile of babbling word
salad like the above and a reference to something written over a hundred
years ago and perhaps a misinterpreted link to a Wiki article about
something else that has some similar words in it.

References to textbooks mean nothing to him as he believes all "teachers"
are in a conspiracy to hide the truth.

He thinks Feynman was a "teacher" and not credible.

Yeah, Feynman was a teacher like Mozart was a piano player.

Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

On 7/3/2012 11:27 AM, wrote:
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:
A real well in soil will be the perfect infinite source of electrons.

A source of electrons is not required. Transmitters use AC (alternating
current) so there is no net flow of electrons.

AC is in a transformer.
In an antenna is the oscillatory flow of electrons. So there is the net
flow of electrons.

"It is now known that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission.[citation needed] Once liberated, electrons are strongly
repelled by the high electric field near the electrode during negative
voltage peaks from the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil"

Do not you know that?
S*

You post nothing but babbling, word salad, nonsense and you are an utter
idiot.

Do you not know that?

Jim, he is either just having a big laugh by posting all this babbling
and watching our reaction or he has a some form of mental illness. If
the later, he is unaware that he has lost touch with reality.

It is probably a form of therapy to cut and paste all the little pieces
of documents he finds. It may make him feel like he has answers that
none of the rest of us have. The clear evidence that he is confusing
valves and antennas is one of the endless indications of his ignorance
of electrical theory.

He continues his babbling because he gets a huge amount of attention
from it. He has an answer for everything. It is just that the answers
make no sense and are rarely related to the questions.

However, if his babblings make sense to anyone, I have and electron
bridge that is securely attached to the earth. It allows perfect radio
communications anywhere in the universe. I am willing to sell this
bridge at a discount price. Please contact me for pricing and delivery.

Michael

Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

On 7/3/2012 1:09 PM, wrote:
Ian wrote:
"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. .


AC is in a transformer.
In an antenna is the oscillatory flow of electrons. So there is the net
flow of electrons.

"It is now known that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission.[citation needed] Once liberated, electrons are
strongly repelled by the high electric field near the electrode during
negative voltage peaks from the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil"

Do not you know that?
S*

Szczepan seems to be muddling up valves and aerials. I guess there's no
point in trying to explain the difference between the two to him. Didn't he
make a similar posting a few months ago?

73, Ian.

He has been posting his idiotic crap for years and years both here and in
sci.phyics.electromag.

No matter what you tell him his response will be a pile of babbling word
salad like the above and a reference to something written over a hundred
years ago and perhaps a misinterpreted link to a Wiki article about
something else that has some similar words in it.

References to textbooks mean nothing to him as he believes all "teachers"
are in a conspiracy to hide the truth.

He thinks Feynman was a "teacher" and not credible.

Yeah, Feynman was a teacher like Mozart was a piano player.


Then why not just ignore him?

Dipole-2 different wire sizes?
 

"John S" wrote in message
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On 7/3/2012 1:09 PM, wrote:

Then why not just ignore him?

We (the group excluding Szczepan) have some good discussions.
Szczepan can be amusing in the views he puts forward. I can't work out
whether he is trying to tease us or really is confused.

I suppose there's also the hope that Szczepan might read and understand the
information that some of us are showing him. It's a bit like trying to
explain radio to a youngster except that a youngster will listen and learn.
Szczepan's idea of using a well to get an infinite supply of electrons made
me smile. We've a lot of disused coal pits in my part of England and it
would be great to turn them into electron mines. We could dispense with coal
fired power stations, wind turbines, solar cells.
Not sure if the electrons would be packed in bottles (like water) or in
sacks (like coal).


73, Ian.