Szczepan Bialek wrote:

Always is the "DC" (net electron flow) from the counterpoise to end of an
antenna.
S*

No, there is not and such is easily proved with a simple multimeter.

You are a babbling idiot.

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Ian" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...

Szczepan seems to have grasped electronics as being the movement of
electrons and has muddled that up with air or liquid flow.

In EM the electricity is like the LIQUID flow ( incompressible and massles).
In electronics is GAS flow. Electron gas. Electrons have mass.

Do you see the difference between massive GAS and massles LIQUID?
S*

This is just word salad nonsense.

There is no such thing as a massles (sic) liquid.

You are a babbling idiot.

Rob wrote:
Ian wrote:
"John S" wrote in message
...
On 7/3/2012 1:09 PM, wrote:

Then why not just ignore him?

We (the group excluding Szczepan) have some good discussions.
Szczepan can be amusing in the views he puts forward. I can't work out
whether he is trying to tease us or really is confused.

I suppose there's also the hope that Szczepan might read and understand the
information that some of us are showing him. It's a bit like trying to
explain radio to a youngster except that a youngster will listen and learn.

I think it is not productive to reply to every posting with "you are
a babbling idiot". That is not going to convince him that he is, and
it just annoys the others.

On the contrary, his history on sci.phyics.elecromag shows if all his
posts get the same response from everyone, he at least goes away for
a while.

It is utterly hopeless to think he can be educated.

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

In 1884 Heavisde wrote the EM. He assumed that electricity and magnetism are
like the massless liquid.
S*

Heavide (sic) didn't "wrote the EM", he speculated about the nature of EM.

And in the intervening 128 years everyone but you has come to realize
that his speculations were incorrect.

You are an ineducable idiot.

Szczepan Bialek wrote:
In 1884...

Hey Szczepan,

What do you think about the Higgs Boson?
It was described in 1964 and found in 2012, so probably after the
closing date for new inventions in your book.

Does it exist?

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

The antenna always has the counterpoise:

This is shown to be incorrect by simple observation.

"A counterpoise which consists of one or more wires in a network insulated
from the ground will often reduce loss resistances which might occur when
the quarterwave antenna is connected to poorly conducting earth. The
counterpoise in the case of a network of several wires acts as a condenser
plate with high capacity to earth, with the result of lower loss in the
antenna system; for this reason the counterpoise should be fairly close to
the ground. [See Fig. 1.] "
From: http://www.antennex.com/shack/Dec06/cps.html

Again, you take a random quote out of context.

The quote is talking about end fed vertical antennas, and ONLY end fed
vertical antennas.

It is NOT true for OTHER types of antennas.

Joel dipole has the two legs.
One of them is the antenna and the second the counterpoise.

Nope, measurment of the voltages, currents, and fields show this to be
wrong.

The net flow of electrons is from the counterpoise to end of antenna.
S*

Nope, measurment shows this to be wrong.

You are an ineducable idiot.

How about Bud Light? Does it approach masslessness? :-)

Irv VE6BP

wrote in message
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Ian" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
...

Szczepan seems to have grasped electronics as being the movement of
electrons and has muddled that up with air or liquid flow.

In EM the electricity is like the LIQUID flow ( incompressible and
massles).
In electronics is GAS flow. Electron gas. Electrons have mass.

Do you see the difference between massive GAS and massles LIQUID?
S*

This is just word salad nonsense.

There is no such thing as a massles (sic) liquid.

You are a babbling idiot.

On 7/4/2012 2:20 PM, Irv Finkleman wrote:
How about Bud Light? Does it approach masslessness? :-)

Irv VE6BP


Look at your (Bud Light) waistline. Is that without mass?

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

The antenna always has the counterpoise:

Where is the counterpoise for these antennna:

A full wave loop antenna

A slot antenna

A horn antenna

For the purposes of the discussion, each antenna is driven by a small,
modular oscillator that has no chassis or metalwork of any kind and is
located half way between the Milky Way and the Andromeda Galaxy, i.e. it
is about 1,250,000 million light years from anything.

OK! Nolo contendere!

Beer doesn't make you FAT it makes you LEAN.Against walls, tables, chairs,
floors,
and other things.

Irv VE6BP

"John S" wrote in message
...
On 7/4/2012 2:20 PM, Irv Finkleman wrote:
How about Bud Light? Does it approach masslessness? :-)

Irv VE6BP


Look at your (Bud Light) waistline. Is that without mass?