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foxbrain July 20th 12 12:20 AM

315mhz/433mhz transmitter
 
hi
i'm just new to this field and i need some help on it and i appreciate any help...
my aim is to make a 315 or 433 transmitter and receiver so what ics is the best for that and where can i buy them and so for the antennas(but i would like to build them)...
thanks

Helmut Wabnig[_2_] July 20th 12 08:21 AM

315mhz/433mhz transmitter
 
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 23:20:02 +0000, foxbrain
wrote:


hi
i'm just new to this field and i need some help on it and i appreciate
any help...
my aim is to make a 315 or 433 transmitter and receiver so what ics is
the best for that and where can i buy them and so for the antennas(but i
would like to build them)...
thanks



For the antenna use a piece of wire, a length of lamda/4 is fine.

w.

foxbrain July 20th 12 03:44 PM

is it a straight wire or curved ? shouldn't i look at it's impedance and make matching with it ?
what about it's ICs

[email protected] July 20th 12 06:28 PM

315mhz/433mhz transmitter
 
foxbrain wrote:

'Helmut Wabnig[_2_ Wrote:
;793671']On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 23:20:02 +0000, foxbrain
wrote:
-

hi
i'm just new to this field and i need some help on it and i appreciate
any help...
my aim is to make a 315 or 433 transmitter and receiver so what ics is
the best for that and where can i buy them and so for the antennas(but i
would like to build them)...
thanks-


For the antenna use a piece of wire, a length of lamda/4 is fine.

w.


is it a straight wire or curved ? shouldn't i look at it's impedance and
make matching with it ?
what about it's ICs


If you want meaningfull replies, you need to ask meaningfull questions.

What do you intend to transmit, modulation type, power levels, etc.?



foxbrain July 21st 12 03:02 PM

i want to make a remote control for 3 relays using the encoders/decoders: pt2262 and pt2272 , it doesn't mine what kind of modulation...
i recently found these 2 ics : u2741b and ata3741 . but what kind of antenna do i need? is there any other thinks i have to know?

Boomer[_2_] July 21st 12 04:35 PM

315mhz/433mhz transmitter
 
On 7/20/2012 9:44 AM, foxbrain wrote:
'Helmut Wabnig[_2_ Wrote:
;793671']On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 23:20:02 +0000, foxbrain
wrote:
-

hi
i'm just new to this field and i need some help on it and i appreciate
any help...
my aim is to make a 315 or 433 transmitter and receiver so what ics is
the best for that and where can i buy them and so for the antennas(but i
would like to build them)...
thanks-


For the antenna use a piece of wire, a length of lamda/4 is fine.

w.


is it a straight wire or curved ? shouldn't i look at it's impedance and
make matching with it ?
what about it's ICs




Use lots of ICs. It doesn't matter which ones. Just put a lot in.

Helmut Wabnig[_2_] July 21st 12 07:06 PM

315mhz/433mhz transmitter
 
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:02:29 +0000, foxbrain
wrote:


i want to make a remote control for 3 relays using the
encoders/decoders: pt2262 and pt2272 , it doesn't mine what kind of
modulation...
i recently found these 2 ics : u2741b and ata3741 . but what kind of
antenna do i need? is there any other thinks i have to know?


Yes, thinkalot.

Why not buy such a thing as this he

http://tinyurl.com/c2pku44


w.

Jeff Liebermann[_2_] July 21st 12 07:33 PM

315mhz/433mhz transmitter
 
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 23:20:02 +0000, foxbrain
wrote:

i'm just new to this field and i need some help on it and i appreciate
any help...
my aim is to make a 315 or 433 transmitter and receiver so what ics is
the best for that and where can i buy them and so for the antennas(but i
would like to build them)...


This sounds like a school class project. If so, we should not be
doing your homework as you will not learn anything.

Some general direction:
http://www.linxtechnologies.com/en/products/modules/kits
http://www.rfsolutions.co.uk/acatalog/RF_Development.html
http://www.ti.com/tool/cc1101dk433
http://www.radiotronix.com/products/proddb.asp?ProdID=216
etc. Google for "433 MHz development kit". These development kits
are NOT cheap, but will give you a clue as to what's involved in the
product development.

For antennas, Google for "433 MHz antenna". There are plenty to
choose from. Most likely, a 1/4 wave wire whip antenna will be
sufficient.

For antenna design help, Google for "433 MHz antenna design". This
might be useful for comparing different types of antennas:
http://www.ti.com/lit/an/swra161b/swra161b.pdf

i want to make a remote control for 3 relays using the
encoders/decoders


There are also commerical products that do roughly what you propose.
Reverse engineering the design and using similar components for your
project is possible:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170740349762
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170854388957
etc...


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Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

[email protected] July 21st 12 07:41 PM

315mhz/433mhz transmitter
 
foxbrain wrote:

i want to make a remote control for 3 relays using the
encoders/decoders: pt2262 and pt2272 , it doesn't mine what kind of
modulation...
i recently found these 2 ics : u2741b and ata3741 . but what kind of
antenna do i need?


How would anyone here know that as it depends on what kind of range you
exepect to get.

The simplest antenna would be a quarter wavelength piece of wire.

is there any other thinks i have to know?


Probably.



foxbrain July 23rd 12 01:08 AM

thanks that helped...
BTW i'm making a project for my own not any kind of homework.
i have one more question : if i wanted to make my device have a bigger range like 500-1000meters should i put an amplifer before the antenna?
i should change the antenna in to yagi shouldn't i?


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