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On 8/25/2012 8:59 AM, W5DXP wrote:
On Friday, August 24, 2012 12:25:23 PM UTC-5, John S wrote: You used a fixed 100V source. Let's modify the definition until you agree with it. How about? resonant antenna [′res·ən·ənt an ′ten·ə] (electromagnetism) An antenna in which there is a peak in the standing wave energy on the antenna at a certain frequency during receive when configured as an unloaded parasitic element using a constant power, variable frequency source for the incident RF fields. Would you agree that that energy peak indicates antenna resonance? -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com Would you agree that my previous statements are correct? |
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On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:47:07 PM UTC-5, amdx wrote:
resonant antenna [′res·ən·ənt an ′ten·ə] (electromagnetism) An antenna for which there is a sharp peak in the power radiated or intercepted by the antenna at a certain frequency, at which electric currents in the antenna form a standing-wave pattern. Seems that these conditions would also exist for any conjugately matched non-resonant standing-wave antenna. |
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:20:25 -0700 (PDT), W5DXP
wrote: Seems that these conditions would also exist for any conjugately matched non-resonant standing-wave antenna. I hope I am never foolish enough to challenge your wisdom Cecil! de W8CCW John Ferrell W8CCW |
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On Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:04:58 PM UTC-5, John Ferrell wrote:
I hope I am never foolish enough to challenge your wisdom Cecil! Just paraphrasing Walter Maxwell, w2du (SK). -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com |
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I don't see why both definitions can't be 'true'. One doesn't exclude the other.
- Paul --------------------- On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:47:07 PM UTC-5, amdx wrote: resonant antenna [′res·ən·ənt an ′ten·ə] (electromagnetism) An antenna for which there is a sharp peak in the power radiated or intercepted by the antenna at a certain frequency, at which electric currents in the antenna form a standing-wave pattern. McGraw-Hill Dictionary of Scientific & Technical Terms, 6E, Copyright © 2003 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc. I thought a resonant antenna was resistive without any reactance. Mikek |
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On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:22:46 AM UTC-5, (unknown) wrote:
I don't see why both definitions can't be 'true'. One doesn't exclude the other. The definition of a "resonant antenna" *should* exclude non-resonant antennas just as the definition of a "red car" should exclude non-red cars. A non-resonant antenna that is conjugately matched meets the definition of a resonant antenna. That seems to be ambiguous at best and at worst, a contradiction. Updating the definition: resonant antenna (also applies to a conjugately matched non-resonant antenna) - An antenna for which there is a peak in the power radiated or intercepted by the antenna at a certain frequency, at which electric currents in the antenna form a maximum current standing-wave pattern So much for the myth that resonant antennas radiate better than non-resonant antennas. Consider the following two examples without transmission lines. 50 ohm Source---50 ohm load 100+j100 ohm Source---100-j100 ohm load Which system has the most efficient power transfer efficiency? Has anyone ever considered that if the coax is disconnected from a center-fed half-wavelength antenna, the antenna is no longer resonant and could instead be used for a non-resonant guy wire at that frequency? -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com |
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