"boomer" wrote in message
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PS some have actually used #00 wire to their speakers. Without
experimenting myself I feel by guessing that this is over-kill. I could be
wrong, I was before.

While going from # 20 or so speaker wire to # 10 is often helpful, I doubt
going much larger is going to help unless you have a very long run.

Lots of things are over sold to te audio people. Best one I know of is some
special oxygen free teflon wire ( or something like that) that replaces the
line cord to the wall outlet for over $ 100. Even if it actually did
something, that extra 50 or so feet of regular wire back to the breaker box
and other wire to the main power feed would make it worthless.



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On 1/9/2014 11:21 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
"boomer" wrote in message
news:_fDzu.213384$4q1.203346@en-nntp-
PS some have actually used #00 wire to their speakers. Without
experimenting myself I feel by guessing that this is over-kill. I could be
wrong, I was before.

While going from # 20 or so speaker wire to # 10 is often helpful, I doubt
going much larger is going to help unless you have a very long run.

Lots of things are over sold to te audio people. Best one I know of is some
special oxygen free teflon wire ( or something like that) that replaces the
line cord to the wall outlet for over $ 100. Even if it actually did
something, that extra 50 or so feet of regular wire back to the breaker box
and other wire to the main power feed would make it worthless.


Definitely! A lot of audio people want the best sound, but are
unfamiliar with the technical aspects. This leaves them ripe for greedy
salespeople.

I remember going into circuit City a few years ago. All I needed was a
few feet of speaker wire. The salesman tried to sell me a 50' spool of
16 gauge wire for about $50. I asked him why it was so expensive - he
replied "Because it's (brand name here)". I then asked him what was so
special about Monster. His only response was "It's (brand name here)!".

I went down the street to Radio Shack and got something similar for
under $10. That was 15 or more years ago, and it's still working fine.

If you want to sell me something that's 5x the price of the competition,
you need to be ready to tell me WHY it's 5x the price. And just saying
it's because it's a certain brand doesn't work.

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In a circa 1970s issue of Stereo Review there was a cartoon showing the
Front Window of a Stereo Dealers. There was a sign advertising an OLD
FOLKS SPECIAL -- a speaker with a frequency response of 500Hz to
5KHz. A caption stated 'Why Pay Good Money For Sound You Can
No Longer Hear?'

Incidentally, if you Google Wickipedia there are a number of articles
on 'speaker damping factor'. In those days I didn't know much math
or physics, so I just used line cord to hook up the speakers. They
sounded great to me! Those were also the days when if you turned up
(or down) the Bass and Treble controls you were in danger of being
poo-pooed by your audiophile friends!

Irv VE6BP


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On 1/9/2014 11:21 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
"boomer" wrote in message
news:_fDzu.213384$4q1.203346@en-nntp-
PS some have actually used #00 wire to their speakers. Without
experimenting myself I feel by guessing that this is over-kill. I could
be
wrong, I was before.

While going from # 20 or so speaker wire to # 10 is often helpful, I
doubt
going much larger is going to help unless you have a very long run.

Lots of things are over sold to te audio people. Best one I know of is
some
special oxygen free teflon wire ( or something like that) that replaces
the
line cord to the wall outlet for over $ 100. Even if it actually did
something, that extra 50 or so feet of regular wire back to the breaker
box
and other wire to the main power feed would make it worthless.


Definitely! A lot of audio people want the best sound, but are unfamiliar
with the technical aspects. This leaves them ripe for greedy salespeople.

I remember going into circuit City a few years ago. All I needed was a
few feet of speaker wire. The salesman tried to sell me a 50' spool of 16
gauge wire for about $50. I asked him why it was so expensive - he
replied "Because it's (brand name here)". I then asked him what was so
special about Monster. His only response was "It's (brand name here)!".

I went down the street to Radio Shack and got something similar for under
$10. That was 15 or more years ago, and it's still working fine.

If you want to sell me something that's 5x the price of the competition,
you need to be ready to tell me WHY it's 5x the price. And just saying
it's because it's a certain brand doesn't work.

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"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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If you want to sell me something that's 5x the price of the competition,
you need to be ready to tell me WHY it's 5x the price. And just saying
it's because it's a certain brand doesn't work.


Had he told people the wire was teflon coated so the electrons flowed beter
and the copper was oxygen free so the electrons would not be degraded, he
could have sold it..

From what I have been seeing the TV people are about the same, Selling high
dollar hdmi cable or special high defination antennas with the same snake
oil pitch.



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On 1/10/2014 10:55 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message
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If you want to sell me something that's 5x the price of the competition,
you need to be ready to tell me WHY it's 5x the price. And just saying
it's because it's a certain brand doesn't work.


Had he told people the wire was teflon coated so the electrons flowed beter
and the copper was oxygen free so the electrons would not be degraded, he
could have sold it..

From what I have been seeing the TV people are about the same, Selling high
dollar hdmi cable or special high defination antennas with the same snake
oil pitch.



Yup, I know what you mean. There are some major differences between
different HDMI cables; they'll all work pretty well at five feet, but
many of the cheaper brands (and a bunch of what you see on TV) won't
work at 50 feet (the maximum for the spec). For some, even 15 feet is
problematical.

Best is to buy from a reputable high-end dealer, especially if it's a
local store and not a chain. They know their stuff.

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