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StrikitRich June 23rd 04 04:48 PM

FM Antennas
 
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1

DJboutit June 23rd 04 05:23 PM

Get a APS-13 antenna best fm receive antenna kinda price though
http://www.starkelectronic.com/aps13.htm. I have read a few user reviews on
it before and everone says it is the best fm receiveing antenna they have
ever used.
For info on reviews check out this link.
http://ecoustics.audioreview.com/psc...PS-13,FM/PRD_1
21215_1596crx.aspx



DJboutit June 23rd 04 05:23 PM

Get a APS-13 antenna best fm receive antenna kinda price though
http://www.starkelectronic.com/aps13.htm. I have read a few user reviews on
it before and everone says it is the best fm receiveing antenna they have
ever used.
For info on reviews check out this link.
http://ecoustics.audioreview.com/psc...PS-13,FM/PRD_1
21215_1596crx.aspx



* June 23rd 04 05:32 PM

directional,
a low cost Radio Shack TV at least antenna medium gain,
80 miles is over the horizon, and can be tough anyway.


"StrikitRich" wrote in message
...
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1




* June 23rd 04 05:32 PM

directional,
a low cost Radio Shack TV at least antenna medium gain,
80 miles is over the horizon, and can be tough anyway.


"StrikitRich" wrote in message
...
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1




StrikitRich June 23rd 04 05:37 PM

In article ,
"DJboutit" wrote:

Get a APS-13 antenna best fm receive antenna kinda price though
http://www.starkelectronic.com/aps13.htm. I have read a few user reviews on
it before and everone says it is the best fm receiveing antenna they have
ever used.
For info on reviews check out this link.
http://ecoustics.audioreview.com/psc...PS-13,FM/PRD_1
21215_1596crx.aspx


At 207" in boom length, it may be a bit of overkill for my needs. The
antenna will be fixed, which is why I was wondering about
omni-directional ones.

StrikitRich June 23rd 04 05:37 PM

In article ,
"DJboutit" wrote:

Get a APS-13 antenna best fm receive antenna kinda price though
http://www.starkelectronic.com/aps13.htm. I have read a few user reviews on
it before and everone says it is the best fm receiveing antenna they have
ever used.
For info on reviews check out this link.
http://ecoustics.audioreview.com/psc...PS-13,FM/PRD_1
21215_1596crx.aspx


At 207" in boom length, it may be a bit of overkill for my needs. The
antenna will be fixed, which is why I was wondering about
omni-directional ones.

Dave Platt June 23rd 04 07:28 PM

Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?


Stick with a directional. You'll probably need a log-periodic to
handle the full width of the FM band - a Yagi/Uda would be great for a
single frequency but probably would not have the bandwidth necessary
to do a decent job across the whole band.

My TV/FM log-periodic at about 35' does a decent job of bringing in
stations from San Francisco (about 40 miles away). 80 miles may be
pushing it.

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


You might want to consider changing over to an amplifier which doesn't
have a trap, or whose trap can be switched on and off, and just use
your existing antenna.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Dave Platt June 23rd 04 07:28 PM

Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?


Stick with a directional. You'll probably need a log-periodic to
handle the full width of the FM band - a Yagi/Uda would be great for a
single frequency but probably would not have the bandwidth necessary
to do a decent job across the whole band.

My TV/FM log-periodic at about 35' does a decent job of bringing in
stations from San Francisco (about 40 miles away). 80 miles may be
pushing it.

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


You might want to consider changing over to an amplifier which doesn't
have a trap, or whose trap can be switched on and off, and just use
your existing antenna.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Tam/WB2TT June 23rd 04 07:45 PM


"StrikitRich" wrote in message
...
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1


What do you have now? A directional antenna will not work N and S unless you
rotate it. Off the back it will be worse than a dipole. If the TV antenna is
on a rotator, it sure would be nice to get rid of the trap, unless there is
some station very close to you. Before you spend a lot of money, try a
dipole running East and West. 80 miles is beyond normal range, and probably
nothing will give you a good signal all the time.

Tam/WB2TT



Tam/WB2TT June 23rd 04 07:45 PM


"StrikitRich" wrote in message
...
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1


What do you have now? A directional antenna will not work N and S unless you
rotate it. Off the back it will be worse than a dipole. If the TV antenna is
on a rotator, it sure would be nice to get rid of the trap, unless there is
some station very close to you. Before you spend a lot of money, try a
dipole running East and West. 80 miles is beyond normal range, and probably
nothing will give you a good signal all the time.

Tam/WB2TT



StrikitRich June 23rd 04 07:53 PM

In article ,
(Dave Platt) wrote:

You might want to consider changing over to an amplifier which doesn't
have a trap, or whose trap can be switched on and off, and just use
your existing antenna.



I have to use the trap, or I lose a couple of stations. The amplifier
is 50'+ high, and scurrying up and down the tower isn't feasible. Range
is actually 60 miles north and 40 south.

At this point, I'm thinking of strapping a log-periodic onto the side of
my TV tower. If I mounted it to the same mast as the TV antenna I can
use the rotor, but this will block my access to the TV antenna.

SR1

StrikitRich June 23rd 04 07:53 PM

In article ,
(Dave Platt) wrote:

You might want to consider changing over to an amplifier which doesn't
have a trap, or whose trap can be switched on and off, and just use
your existing antenna.



I have to use the trap, or I lose a couple of stations. The amplifier
is 50'+ high, and scurrying up and down the tower isn't feasible. Range
is actually 60 miles north and 40 south.

At this point, I'm thinking of strapping a log-periodic onto the side of
my TV tower. If I mounted it to the same mast as the TV antenna I can
use the rotor, but this will block my access to the TV antenna.

SR1

William Mutch June 23rd 04 09:27 PM

In article ,
says...
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1

At that range you will probably need *both* more altitude and a
high gain directional antenna to get full limiting on FM. If you want
both directions for both Tampa and Fort Meyers you will need either a
rotator or (maybe cheaper) two separate yagi's.
If you are very close to the geodesic connecting Tampa and Fort
Meyers an elegant solution would be to homebrew a sharp bidirectional
coalinear array.

William Mutch June 23rd 04 09:27 PM

In article ,
says...
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1

At that range you will probably need *both* more altitude and a
high gain directional antenna to get full limiting on FM. If you want
both directions for both Tampa and Fort Meyers you will need either a
rotator or (maybe cheaper) two separate yagi's.
If you are very close to the geodesic connecting Tampa and Fort
Meyers an elegant solution would be to homebrew a sharp bidirectional
coalinear array.

Dennis Kaylor June 24th 04 03:59 AM

i would suggest going to radio shack.com and they have a FM directional
antenna that is around $20-30 for it and its designed just for FM radio

StrikitRich wrote:
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1



Dennis Kaylor June 24th 04 03:59 AM

i would suggest going to radio shack.com and they have a FM directional
antenna that is around $20-30 for it and its designed just for FM radio

StrikitRich wrote:
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1



Tim Perry June 24th 04 04:23 AM


"Dennis Kaylor" wrote in message
. com...
i would suggest going to radio shack.com and they have a FM directional
antenna that is around $20-30 for it and its designed just for FM radio

StrikitRich wrote:
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1



i have found mounting these antennas vertically makes them longer lasting...
because birds land on them and bend the elements down when mounted
horizontally.



Tim Perry June 24th 04 04:23 AM


"Dennis Kaylor" wrote in message
. com...
i would suggest going to radio shack.com and they have a FM directional
antenna that is around $20-30 for it and its designed just for FM radio

StrikitRich wrote:
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1



i have found mounting these antennas vertically makes them longer lasting...
because birds land on them and bend the elements down when mounted
horizontally.



greg z June 24th 04 04:35 AM

,
says...
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1


-------------------------------------------------------------
My situation somewhat similar,watch TV stations 80 to 100+ miles
away, having a FM station 6 miles away and still wanting to listen
to FM stations 50 to 80miles away. I disabled the FM trap on the
mast mounted amp,split the sig in the house,than notched(trap) FM
from the line to the TV. DX tropo last year TV 800miles and FM about 400 miles.
73
Greg Z
to thine own sound be true
WG8Z

greg z June 24th 04 04:35 AM

,
says...
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1


-------------------------------------------------------------
My situation somewhat similar,watch TV stations 80 to 100+ miles
away, having a FM station 6 miles away and still wanting to listen
to FM stations 50 to 80miles away. I disabled the FM trap on the
mast mounted amp,split the sig in the house,than notched(trap) FM
from the line to the TV. DX tropo last year TV 800miles and FM about 400 miles.
73
Greg Z
to thine own sound be true
WG8Z

g g June 24th 04 06:14 AM

i have a radio shack fm antenna works great i can pick up stations
about 200 miles away i use a bose wave radio,onkyo.and one more
thing what kind of radio you got.


g g June 24th 04 06:14 AM

i have a radio shack fm antenna works great i can pick up stations
about 200 miles away i use a bose wave radio,onkyo.and one more
thing what kind of radio you got.


g g June 24th 04 06:14 AM

i have a radio shack fm antenna works great i can pick up stations
about 200 miles away i use a bose wave radio,onkyo.and one more
thing what kind of radio you got.


g g June 24th 04 06:14 AM

i have a radio shack fm antenna works great i can pick up stations
about 200 miles away i use a bose wave radio,onkyo.and one more
thing what kind of radio you got.


StrikitRich June 24th 04 04:23 PM

In article ,
ospam (greg z) wrote:

,
says...
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1


-------------------------------------------------------------
My situation somewhat similar,watch TV stations 80 to 100+ miles
away, having a FM station 6 miles away and still wanting to listen
to FM stations 50 to 80miles away. I disabled the FM trap on the
mast mounted amp,split the sig in the house,than notched(trap) FM
from the line to the TV. DX tropo last year TV 800miles and FM about 400
miles.
73
Greg Z
to thine own sound be true
WG8Z


What kind of FM trap are you using? My previous amplifier had a weak
trap, so I used an inline trap with a similar setup to yours. When I
had the amp replaced, woodpeckers wrecked the case, I was told that this
would no longer work, the inline trap didn't seem to work, either. I
was told that the trap needed to be close to the antenna, and inline
before the power source.

SR1

StrikitRich June 24th 04 04:23 PM

In article ,
ospam (greg z) wrote:

,
says...
Pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but hopefully
I can get an answer here.

What would be the best type of antenna for receiving FM radio stations
up 80 miles away(Tampa to the north, Fort Myers to the south)? The
antenna would be mounted outside, up to 30' high. Would an
omni-directional antenna work, or should I stick with a directional?

My TV antenna is up about 55', but the amplifier has the trap on and I
can only get the strongest of the signals.


Thanks in advance, SR1


-------------------------------------------------------------
My situation somewhat similar,watch TV stations 80 to 100+ miles
away, having a FM station 6 miles away and still wanting to listen
to FM stations 50 to 80miles away. I disabled the FM trap on the
mast mounted amp,split the sig in the house,than notched(trap) FM
from the line to the TV. DX tropo last year TV 800miles and FM about 400
miles.
73
Greg Z
to thine own sound be true
WG8Z


What kind of FM trap are you using? My previous amplifier had a weak
trap, so I used an inline trap with a similar setup to yours. When I
had the amp replaced, woodpeckers wrecked the case, I was told that this
would no longer work, the inline trap didn't seem to work, either. I
was told that the trap needed to be close to the antenna, and inline
before the power source.

SR1


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