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NN7KEXK7ZFG@\(nospam\)SBCGLOBAL.NET June 27th 04 11:16 PM

And, another thought: Often times on ebay, and at swap meets, you will see
ones by Measurments Corp-- Model 59. (think some also calles "Boontown"
meters , were made in Boontown, N.J.) These were made even with modern
day houseings (saw one at the last local meet), and relatively CHEAP! These
come in 2 varieties- a LOW freq head (freq range unknown), and a HF-VHF
version 2.2 MHz to 400 MHz in 7 ranges, and have a 4 inch meter (great
for these fadeing eyes) But- make sure that these have all their coils, and
tuneing
head! Tuneing is quite smooth and freq is acurate - modification article
for them
is in vintage Ham Radio issue. Agree with george- selenium is probably
shot, as well
as filter cap., and tube probably getting quite old (glow violet?- its
"gassy", and migh
salvage it by keeping power on it for couple weeks, but cheap to replace)!
Good luck, either way! Jim NN7K

"Crazy George" wrote in message
...
Jerry:

If it still has the original selenium and filter capacitor, that is a good
place to start. Of course, the tube may be weak, although none of mine

have
ever needed tubes.

--
Crazy George
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"Jerry Martes" wrote in message
...

Thanks, George I just made one. I wound a piece of 1/8 th

diameter
aluminum wire around a 3/8 th bolt. The leads on the coil to the meter

are
that same 1/8 th wire, about 2 inches long.
I'm impressed that the grid dipper now produces 137.50 MHz when the

dial
reads 130.00. Hows that for good instructions from you??
I can tweek the frequency later, but now I see that this meter doesnt

have
alot os "power out".

The grid dipper needle doesnt get above 0.1 so the poor sensitivity is
going to make this meter difficult to interpret. I got a schematic with
this (eBay) grid dipper so I expect I'll be able to do something to get

the
meter to read a little farther up scale.

I appreciate your help.

Thanks
Jerry



"Crazy George" wrote in message
...
Go to the jamesmillenco.com web site and scroll halfway down page 1

for
a
photo of the coils in the rack. A further Google search will reveal

many
other pages with photos. The 60 - 150 coil is two turns of #20 wire

3/8"
dia., and spaced about 1/8" apart out at the end of the plastic tube

(inside
it).

--
Crazy George
Remove N O and S P A M imbedded in return address
"Jerry Martes" wrote in message
...
I want to make a coil for a Millen grid dip meter that I bought
*without*
coils. It would be alot easier if I had a picture of the coil Milen

uses
for the 60 to 150 MHz range. Is there anyone who'd be willing to

send
me
a
picture of that coil?

Thanks
Jerry











Jerry Martes June 28th 04 03:15 AM


" wrote in
message ...
And, another thought: Often times on ebay, and at swap meets, you will

see
ones by Measurments Corp-- Model 59. (think some also calles "Boontown"
meters , were made in Boontown, N.J.) These were made even with modern
day houseings (saw one at the last local meet), and relatively CHEAP!

These
come in 2 varieties- a LOW freq head (freq range unknown), and a HF-VHF
version 2.2 MHz to 400 MHz in 7 ranges, and have a 4 inch meter (great
for these fadeing eyes) But- make sure that these have all their coils,

and
tuneing
head! Tuneing is quite smooth and freq is acurate - modification article
for them
is in vintage Ham Radio issue. Agree with george- selenium is probably
shot, as well
as filter cap., and tube probably getting quite old (glow violet?- its
"gassy", and migh
salvage it by keeping power on it for couple weeks, but cheap to replace)!
Good luck, either way! Jim NN7K


Jim

There was a decent looking Measurements Grid Dipper on eBay a few weeks
ago and I thought I'd win it when I placed a $ 75.00 bid. But when I got
outbid, I assumed that there was a rich market for the Measuurement-Boonton
meters, so I lowered my sights and got this Millen (minus coils) for $16.00.
I think this Millen will be fun to make work and I'm actually happy with it
now that George has shown me how to make the coil for the one frequency I'm
interested in.
The Millen has a jack that allows the user to include a meter in series
with the Millen meter. I plugged a 250 Microamp (FS) ammeter and think the
meter is OK for my use now.
The more I learn about Grid Dip Meters, the more respect I have for them.

Thanks for all the help and advice.

Jerry





Jerry Martes June 28th 04 03:15 AM


" wrote in
message ...
And, another thought: Often times on ebay, and at swap meets, you will

see
ones by Measurments Corp-- Model 59. (think some also calles "Boontown"
meters , were made in Boontown, N.J.) These were made even with modern
day houseings (saw one at the last local meet), and relatively CHEAP!

These
come in 2 varieties- a LOW freq head (freq range unknown), and a HF-VHF
version 2.2 MHz to 400 MHz in 7 ranges, and have a 4 inch meter (great
for these fadeing eyes) But- make sure that these have all their coils,

and
tuneing
head! Tuneing is quite smooth and freq is acurate - modification article
for them
is in vintage Ham Radio issue. Agree with george- selenium is probably
shot, as well
as filter cap., and tube probably getting quite old (glow violet?- its
"gassy", and migh
salvage it by keeping power on it for couple weeks, but cheap to replace)!
Good luck, either way! Jim NN7K


Jim

There was a decent looking Measurements Grid Dipper on eBay a few weeks
ago and I thought I'd win it when I placed a $ 75.00 bid. But when I got
outbid, I assumed that there was a rich market for the Measuurement-Boonton
meters, so I lowered my sights and got this Millen (minus coils) for $16.00.
I think this Millen will be fun to make work and I'm actually happy with it
now that George has shown me how to make the coil for the one frequency I'm
interested in.
The Millen has a jack that allows the user to include a meter in series
with the Millen meter. I plugged a 250 Microamp (FS) ammeter and think the
meter is OK for my use now.
The more I learn about Grid Dip Meters, the more respect I have for them.

Thanks for all the help and advice.

Jerry





John Moriarity June 30th 04 02:39 AM

And, another thought: Often times on ebay, and at swap meets, you will
see
ones by Measurments Corp-- Model 59. (think some also calles "Boontown"
meters , were made in Boontown, N.J.)


Actually, it's Boonton, N.J., I've been to the
Measurements Corp factory. There was
another company there that used the name
"Boonton". I have one of their RF Voltmeters.

...These
come in 2 varieties- a LOW freq head (freq range unknown), and a HF-VHF
version 2.2 MHz to 400 MHz ...


One meter/power supply unit, three tuning
heads. Mine are packed at the moment,
but the LF head covers roughly 60 kHz to
2.3 MHz, the most common head covers
2.2 to 400 MHz, and the UHF head covers
up to about 1GHz, as I recall.

I have all three heads, and use them all.
Great instrument, but many newcomers
(even a Hewlett-Packard RF engineer I
once worked for) have never seen one.

73, John - K6QQ



John Moriarity June 30th 04 02:39 AM

And, another thought: Often times on ebay, and at swap meets, you will
see
ones by Measurments Corp-- Model 59. (think some also calles "Boontown"
meters , were made in Boontown, N.J.)


Actually, it's Boonton, N.J., I've been to the
Measurements Corp factory. There was
another company there that used the name
"Boonton". I have one of their RF Voltmeters.

...These
come in 2 varieties- a LOW freq head (freq range unknown), and a HF-VHF
version 2.2 MHz to 400 MHz ...


One meter/power supply unit, three tuning
heads. Mine are packed at the moment,
but the LF head covers roughly 60 kHz to
2.3 MHz, the most common head covers
2.2 to 400 MHz, and the UHF head covers
up to about 1GHz, as I recall.

I have all three heads, and use them all.
Great instrument, but many newcomers
(even a Hewlett-Packard RF engineer I
once worked for) have never seen one.

73, John - K6QQ



sbc yahoo news June 30th 04 03:09 AM

Yeh, and my first experience with one was at a Ham, and now long retired
Tektronix employee. always wanted one-- bought mine for around 60 bux!
The interesting thing was , found 2 of them (SANS OSCILLATOR HEAD) for
10 bux, and one of them NOT the WW II version, but in a SQUARE, modern
houseing ! Probably should have got them on spot, but then there is
always next year!! Not much call, unfortunatly for great test lab
quality equipment (too many appliance ops!) but then the more they DONT
recognize this stuff, the cheaper it is for me!! Good Memories- from
around 35 years ago! Jim NN7K

John Moriarity wrote:
And, another thought: Often times on ebay, and at swap meets, you will


see

ones by Measurments Corp-- Model 59. (think some also calles "Boontown"
meters , were made in Boontown, N.J.)



Actually, it's Boonton, N.J., I've been to the
Measurements Corp factory. There was
another company there that used the name
"Boonton". I have one of their RF Voltmeters.


...These
come in 2 varieties- a LOW freq head (freq range unknown), and a HF-VHF
version 2.2 MHz to 400 MHz ...



One meter/power supply unit, three tuning
heads. Mine are packed at the moment,
but the LF head covers roughly 60 kHz to
2.3 MHz, the most common head covers
2.2 to 400 MHz, and the UHF head covers
up to about 1GHz, as I recall.

I have all three heads, and use them all.
Great instrument, but many newcomers
(even a Hewlett-Packard RF engineer I
once worked for) have never seen one.

73, John - K6QQ



sbc yahoo news June 30th 04 03:09 AM

Yeh, and my first experience with one was at a Ham, and now long retired
Tektronix employee. always wanted one-- bought mine for around 60 bux!
The interesting thing was , found 2 of them (SANS OSCILLATOR HEAD) for
10 bux, and one of them NOT the WW II version, but in a SQUARE, modern
houseing ! Probably should have got them on spot, but then there is
always next year!! Not much call, unfortunatly for great test lab
quality equipment (too many appliance ops!) but then the more they DONT
recognize this stuff, the cheaper it is for me!! Good Memories- from
around 35 years ago! Jim NN7K

John Moriarity wrote:
And, another thought: Often times on ebay, and at swap meets, you will


see

ones by Measurments Corp-- Model 59. (think some also calles "Boontown"
meters , were made in Boontown, N.J.)



Actually, it's Boonton, N.J., I've been to the
Measurements Corp factory. There was
another company there that used the name
"Boonton". I have one of their RF Voltmeters.


...These
come in 2 varieties- a LOW freq head (freq range unknown), and a HF-VHF
version 2.2 MHz to 400 MHz ...



One meter/power supply unit, three tuning
heads. Mine are packed at the moment,
but the LF head covers roughly 60 kHz to
2.3 MHz, the most common head covers
2.2 to 400 MHz, and the UHF head covers
up to about 1GHz, as I recall.

I have all three heads, and use them all.
Great instrument, but many newcomers
(even a Hewlett-Packard RF engineer I
once worked for) have never seen one.

73, John - K6QQ




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