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W5DXP wrote in message ...
Dr. Slick wrote: I didn't think you could tell us. I've never seen an SWR meter that you could "calibrate" to 50 or 75 ohms, or less. The calibration of the SWR meter is controlled by the internal sampling load resistor, the 'R' in Peter's V + IR equation. I have a home-brewed SWR meter that measures SWR on both balanced 450 ohm feedlines and on 300 ohm feedlines simply by changing the internal load resistors. BTW, how do you know the accuracy of your homebrew SWR meter? Slick |
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Dr. Slick wrote:
BTW, how do you know the accuracy of your homebrew SWR meter? I have a bunch of 50W 600 ohm non-inductive resistors that I use for calibration purposes. And I really don't know the accuracy. An SWR of 20:1 looks the same as an SWR of 25:1 on the scale. I have an upper and lower acceptable limit to the SWRs with the matching method I use. The SWR meter tells me if the SWR is outside of that acceptable range. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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W5DXP wrote:
Dr. Slick wrote: BTW, how do you know the accuracy of your homebrew SWR meter? I have a bunch of 50W 600 ohm non-inductive resistors that I use for calibration purposes. And I really don't know the accuracy. An SWR of 20:1 looks the same as an SWR of 25:1 on the scale. I have an upper and lower acceptable limit to the SWRs with the matching method I use. The SWR meter tells me if the SWR is outside of that acceptable range. It's interesting to see an example of an SWR meter for a Z0 that isn't 50 ohms, because it helps to confirm that they all work in basically the same way. If [V] is a sample of the line voltage, and [i] is a sample of the line current, then the forward reading is the sum of two RF voltages, [V] + [i]R, where R is the resistor that converts the [i] sample into a voltage. The reverse reading is the difference, [V] - [i]R. The "calibration to Z0" procedure consists of terminating the line in the design value of Z0, and then adjusting R so that the reverse reading [V] - [i]R is zero. The RF voltages are either summed or subtracted, and then the resultant is detected by the diode. Just one small point, though... it is not necessary that R = Z0. The value required depends on the sampling factors kV and kI that relate the voltage and current in the line to the sampled values [V] and [i]. In full, the instrument is calibrated to Z0 when: kV*V - kI*I*R = 0 In a typical bridge, two out of the three constants kV, kI and R are fixed, and the third is adjustable. In a Bruene bridge, kI is fixed by the number of turns on the current-sampling toroid, R is fixed, and you calibrate the bridge by adjusting the kV factor in the voltage divider. However, it would be equally good to build-in fixed values of kV and kI, and balance the bridge by making R a small trimpot. So R really does not have to equal Z0... and in most published circuits, it doesn't. This can also be shown in a different way, by thinking of it as a Wheatstone bridge, with Z0 as one arm. The requirement for balance is only that Z0/R2 = R3/R4. It is not necessary for any of the other resistors R2, R3 or R4 to equal Z0 in order to achieve balance. AFAIK, the only situation where the "terminating" resistor truly needs to equal Z0 is in parallel-line couplers for microwaves, when the sampling line approaches a quarter-wavelength long and its own characteristic impedance is Z0 too. -- 73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book' http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek |
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Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
The RF voltages are either summed or subtracted, and then the resultant is detected by the diode. I know you know this, Ian, but let's make sure that everyone understands that the summation (or subtraction) is a phasor (vector) summation. It is the phasing between the total voltage and total current that allows the forward wave to be separated from the reflected wave, and vice versa. The directional coupler designer assumes that the ratio of Vfor/Ifor = Z0 and that the ratio of Vref/Iref = Z0. If that assumption is incorrect, the SWR meter will still assume that the assumption is correct. Just one small point, though... it is not necessary that R = Z0. That's true and is just a habit on my part. I set R=Z0 and then adjust the voltage accordingly for calibration purposes. For awhile, I was using a 450 ohm load for ladder-line with a measured Z0 of 388 ohms. It still worked pretty well. AFAIK, the only situation where the "terminating" resistor truly needs to equal Z0 is in parallel-line couplers for microwaves, when the sampling line approaches a quarter-wavelength long and its own characteristic impedance is Z0 too. In most of the slotted line pickups that I have seen, the internal load resistor is equal to the Z0 of the slotted line. I don't know if that is necessary or not. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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