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What are the ODDS?
Hi Gang
Last night was the 4th (doh, we all knew that!) But how many of you woke up this morning with a rocket perched upside down on top of your tallest antenna? I have a Diamond triband 2/220/440 antenna up some 60+ feet. The remains of a finned rocket about 10 to 12 inches tall has managed to land on top of this antenna, nose down fins up. Right now it's at the very top, but I'm sure in a few days will probably slide down the antenna shaft coming into contact with the radials. Should I worry about this (chemical reactions) or just forget it and let time and weather take it's toll on the remains? TTUL - 73+ de Gary - KGØZP |
"Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." wrote in message ... Hi Gang Last night was the 4th (doh, we all knew that!) But how many of you woke up this morning with a rocket perched upside down on top of your tallest antenna? I have a Diamond triband 2/220/440 antenna up some 60+ feet. The remains of a finned rocket about 10 to 12 inches tall has managed to land on top of this antenna, nose down fins up. Right now it's at the very top, but I'm sure in a few days will probably slide down the antenna shaft coming into contact with the radials. Should I worry about this (chemical reactions) or just forget it and let time and weather take it's toll on the remains? TTUL - 73+ de Gary - KGØZP Take a picture quick and send it to QST! They'd probably publish it as a stray... pete |
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:01:49 -0400, " Uncle Peter"
wrote: "Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." wrote in message ... Hi Gang Last night was the 4th (doh, we all knew that!) But how many of you woke up this morning with a rocket perched upside down on top of your tallest antenna? I have a Diamond triband 2/220/440 antenna up some 60+ feet. The remains of a finned rocket about 10 to 12 inches tall has managed to land on top of this antenna, nose down fins up. Right now it's at the very top, but I'm sure in a few days will probably slide down the antenna shaft coming into contact with the radials. Should I worry about this (chemical reactions) or just forget it and let time and weather take it's toll on the remains? TTUL - 73+ de Gary - KGØZP Take a picture quick and send it to QST! They'd probably publish it as a stray... pete The picture is a good idea, but please post it so we don't have to wait for when/if it gets published! I wouldn't worry much about chemical reaction, the propellant was probably expended though there are likely trace amounts inside the tube (from the charge that pops the parachute) and if the burned out engine is still inside the rocket I doubt it will slide further down your antenna. It will take a while for the weather to take care of this, so if it is affecting the antenna's performance you've gotta make the climb ....... but not before getting a good picture of it! 73 & good luck, Howard |
Oh, I want pictures! Gotta see this.
de AI8W, Chris Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote: Hi Gang Last night was the 4th (doh, we all knew that!) But how many of you woke up this morning with a rocket perched upside down on top of your tallest antenna? I have a Diamond triband 2/220/440 antenna up some 60+ feet. The remains of a finned rocket about 10 to 12 inches tall has managed to land on top of this antenna, nose down fins up. Right now it's at the very top, but I'm sure in a few days will probably slide down the antenna shaft coming into contact with the radials. Should I worry about this (chemical reactions) or just forget it and let time and weather take it's toll on the remains? TTUL - 73+ de Gary - KGØZP |
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Does the rocket have a "Red Glare"?
"Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." wrote in message ... Hi Gang Last night was the 4th (doh, we all knew that!) But how many of you woke up this morning with a rocket perched upside down on top of your tallest antenna? I have a Diamond triband 2/220/440 antenna up some 60+ feet. The remains of a finned rocket about 10 to 12 inches tall has managed to land on top of this antenna, nose down fins up. Right now it's at the very top, but I'm sure in a few days will probably slide down the antenna shaft coming into contact with the radials. Should I worry about this (chemical reactions) or just forget it and let time and weather take it's toll on the remains? TTUL - 73+ de Gary - KGØZP |
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 02:13:00 GMT, "Radio Man"
wrote: "Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." wrote in message ... Hi Gang Last night was the 4th (doh, we all knew that!) But how many of you woke up this morning with a rocket perched upside down on top of your tallest antenna? I have a Diamond triband 2/220/440 antenna up some 60+ feet. The remains of a finned rocket about 10 to 12 inches tall has managed to land on top of this antenna, nose down fins up. Right now it's at the very top, but I'm sure in a few days will probably slide down the antenna shaft coming into contact with the radials. Should I worry about this (chemical reactions) or just forget it and let time and weather take it's toll on the remains? Does the rocket have a "Red Glare"? Sounds more like a model rocket than a firework. If it is, the materials may be more weatherproof. In either case, it doesn't quite seem within normal legal usage near a residential area. As said, most likely any propellant is gone, and the main concern would be physical damage from the wind moving it around. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
Hi Uncle Peter
GREAT IDEA! Will Do and stick it on a web page so you can see it! TTUL Gary |
Hi Wes
I LOVE hearing of rare incidents like that! I was talking with an OM one night about 10 years ago, he was out in the Denver area, I don't remember off hand which band we were on, but in the background he had a 2 meter rig tuned to his local repeater. It was quiet, no traffic while I was talking with him at all. Then suddenly, as plain as day we heard a voice on the repeater come in about mid sentence of a Triple A towtruck driver talking to a stranded motorist, as the driver read back the license plate for verification, it was this fellows own car tags, so we paused our conversation so he could listen to the call, which must have been intermod of some type. He was gone for a short while, but when he came back to the radio, he said, darnest thing, my car is in the garage! It was bugging him to no end, so he paused again to call Triple A. I hung around for about a half hour waiting for him and was just ready to call it quits when he gave me a call. That tags were from an adjoining state, but the irony of the whole thing was, both registered owners had near identical names. Not spelled the same, but close enough that they could be mistaken for each other when spoken orally. Dow Einsteen and Bo Weinstein or something close to those combinations. I bumped into him on the same band about 3 months later and he was still talking about it! TTUL Gary |
This is called "Synchronicity"-----Meaningful coincidence.
There is a yahoo group that discusses this "Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." wrote in message ... Hi Wes I LOVE hearing of rare incidents like that! I was talking with an OM one night about 10 years ago, he was out in the Denver area, I don't remember off hand which band we were on, but in the background he had a 2 meter rig tuned to his local repeater. It was quiet, no traffic while I was talking with him at all. Then suddenly, as plain as day we heard a voice on the repeater come in about mid sentence of a Triple A towtruck driver talking to a stranded motorist, as the driver read back the license plate for verification, it was this fellows own car tags, so we paused our conversation so he could listen to the call, which must have been intermod of some type. He was gone for a short while, but when he came back to the radio, he said, darnest thing, my car is in the garage! It was bugging him to no end, so he paused again to call Triple A. I hung around for about a half hour waiting for him and was just ready to call it quits when he gave me a call. That tags were from an adjoining state, but the irony of the whole thing was, both registered owners had near identical names. Not spelled the same, but close enough that they could be mistaken for each other when spoken orally. Dow Einsteen and Bo Weinstein or something close to those combinations. I bumped into him on the same band about 3 months later and he was still talking about it! TTUL Gary |
"Radio Man" wrote in message ... This is called "Synchronicity"-----Meaningful coincidence. There is a yahoo group that discusses this "Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." wrote in message ... Hi Wes I LOVE hearing of rare incidents like that! Well mine was as follows..... In the early 1980s I was working as a salesman in a marine instrumentation manufacturer in South UK and much of our product went to Aberdeen in Scotland about 500 miles North of us, in the oil exploration days in the North Sea. I spoke to about 50 people up there regularly (sales) and "knew them" quite well / recognised their voices...... One day I was dialling "X" and got a crossed line - I listened for a few seconds and then couldn't believe my ears... - it was "Y" talking to "Z", both of whom I knew, and both of whom were discussing buying something from me (my company) each was in a different company up there about 5 miles apart.... I broke in and they could hear me too and for a short while we were all aghast at how tiny those odds must have been. I rarely get a cross line let alone with anyone I know, let alone with two people I know, and let alone talking about me !!! It will never happen again..... There's something slightly spooky about that.. Nick |
Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote:
Hi Wes I LOVE hearing of rare incidents like that! OK. 1969, Osan AFB, ROK. I'm an Army E-5 and go into badge and ID to get a new ID card and plop my papers on the counter. Guy behind the counter gives me and my papers the triple take, gets a set of papers of a desk, plops them on the counter and says "This guy left 10 minutes ago, what's going on here". I see a picture of what seems to be me as an Air Force lieutenant. Same height, weight, color of hair and eyes, same mustache, same first and last name, facial features close enough to pass. The only difference was our middle initials and Air Force instead of Army. It took a while to get my ID card... -- Jim Pennino Remove -spam-sux to reply. |
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Hi Rich
I shouldn't probably say this publicly, but it was so many years ago it probably wouldn't matter today anyhow. A was working for company that worked under government contracts, we all had ID badges of course. Because of my and other co-workers clearance level, we had badges that without close examination looked like the upper echelon of a department we had to walk through a few times. This caused all the workers in that department to begin working hog wild until we had passed through. But that's not the funniest part. Each of us in the team I was in had black dot security clearance as well, which just appears to the eye as a black dot on our badges. A few of the upper echelon of the other department wanted to follow us so they conveniently placed a simple black dot on their badges and tailed in a secure area with us as part of the group. No sooner than the doors behind us shut, the security doors in the hallway slammed shut as well and we were all trapped like rats in a maze until security came and hauled those not of our group away. Every single one of them got the axe, even though they were part of the upper echelon. We too got into trouble as being the group that held the door open for them to come in, which was a bummer. But our trouble was just a 2 hour long lecture (on the clock). This was way back in the 60's and security monitoring equipment was quite advanced back then. I hate to think of what it is today! TTUL Gary |
"Radio Man" verbositized:
This is called "Synchronicity"-----Meaningful coincidence. There is a yahoo group that discusses this Hey, thanks Radio Man! I had never heard that word before. See, one learns something new everyday. Over 150 people showed up at a funeral home for my uncles funeral. Only thing was, my uncle was very much alive. With a name like ours, you don't see too many duplicates, hi hi..... So when the Obit appeared in the paper, folks just assumed it was my uncle and donned their Sunday best and headed off for the funeral parlor. He really ENJOYED all of his friends calling him up to express their condolences and he was the one answering the phone. TTUL Gary |
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"Richard Clark" wrote Admiral Hyman Rickover. He was a thorn in every side at every level (but that is how to make an honestly robust and bullet-proof weapons system unlike star wars). Hi Richard - Luckily, Rickover was never part of a weapons system. Or else, in addition to driving a submarine that was too heavy, too slow, and could not dive as deep as the enemy because of his assanine demands on the nuke plant, we would have also had torpedoes that were slower than the enemy that was hunting us. Bad enough that they dove deeper ran faster and had torpedoes faster than we were. I once had some twit Canadian who was visiting across Lake Erie when I was home on leave, tell me that the U.S. simply out-spent the Soviets in the Cold War.. That jerk-off would never know the harrowing times that we were nearly rammed by packs of faster boats that could sweep an area at nearly twice our top speed. They would race, stop listen, charge another direction, stop listen, etc. We out-trained and out-manuevered that dedicated adversary, and anybody that thinks differently reads too many novels.. Also, the Chinese never got our propellers, and it wouldn't matter if they did then or now. It was the Soviets that bought the ballbearing technology for sound silencing from Toshiba - who violated their contract by "sharing" it. Best regards, Jack |
"Jack Painter" wrote in message news:zn1Hc.20$Qj.6@lakeread01..
Luckily, Rickover was never part of a weapons system. Or else, in addition to driving a submarine that was too heavy, too slow, and could not dive as deep as the enemy ... To get back to antennas... Buoyant Wire Antenna (BWA) System Buoyant wires are long, towed antennas that provide a submarine with the ability to communicate while remaining deeply submerged. The system consists of a buoyant wire antenna, a reeling machine which deploys, tows, and retrieves the antenna, reeling machine controls, a transmit/receive switch, and an antenna coupler. When the submarine wishes to communicate, the buoyant wire antenna is deployed via the reeling machine which can be mounted either inboard or outboard of the pressure hull. A portion of the antenna floats at or near the sea surface and receives radio signals. An antenna that allows both transmit and receive in the HF band is also available. Signals received on the Buoyant Wire Antenna are filtered and amplified in the Antenna Coupler located in the radio room. This coupler is a broadband device that provides the interface between the special antenna and the standard submarine radio receivers. Because the system is broadband, it is LINK Eleven compatible. http://www.sippican.com/stuff/conten...et/buoyant.pdf |
On 8 Jul 2004 06:11:09 -0700, (k4wge) wrote:
To get back to antennas... Buoyant Wire Antenna (BWA) System Buoyant wires are long, towed antennas that provide a submarine with the ability to communicate while remaining deeply submerged. Hi Bill, To continue the side-topic, the single link is not enough to complete the picture without a treatment of the sending side of sub communications: http://www.provcomm.net/pages/joe/monitoring_lf.htm which contains a discussion of Jim Creek, which is within 30 Miles of me, and once had the reputation of having the world's most powerful transmitter. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
"Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr." wrote in message ... Hi Gang Last night was the 4th (doh, we all knew that!) But how many of you woke up this morning with a rocket perched upside down on top of your tallest antenna? I have a Diamond triband 2/220/440 antenna up some 60+ feet. The remains of a finned rocket about 10 to 12 inches tall has managed to land on top of this antenna, nose down fins up. Right now it's at the very top, but I'm sure in a few days will probably slide down the antenna shaft coming into contact with the radials. Should I worry about this (chemical reactions) or just forget it and let time and weather take it's toll on the remains? TTUL - 73+ de Gary - KGØZP Quick! Call Homeland Security! G Ed Cregger, NM2K |
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