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John S October 27th 14 05:33 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
Sorry, guys -

I came here to discuss antennas. I am tired of the off-topic trash that
this so-called Gareth is producing. Any thread henceforth originated by
him will be deleted so that I do not have any urge to respond. I will
also delete any thread that responds to his posts as I now see that
there is no hope for a reasonable dialog when he posts to them whether
initiated by him or not.

I will continue to discuss all technical aspects of antennas with those
who wish to do so.

John KD5YI

Irv Finkleman VE6BP October 27th 14 06:47 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
John S wrote:
Sorry, guys -

I came here to discuss antennas. I am tired of the off-topic trash that
this so-called Gareth is producing. Any thread henceforth originated by
him will be deleted so that I do not have any urge to respond. I will
also delete any thread that responds to his posts as I now see that
there is no hope for a reasonable dialog when he posts to them whether
initiated by him or not.

I will continue to discuss all technical aspects of antennas with those
who wish to do so.

John KD5YI


Yes. I agree! I'm wearing out my delete key on his posts!

Irv VE6BP

John S October 27th 14 06:51 PM

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On 10/27/2014 1:47 PM, Irv Finkleman VE6BP wrote:
John S wrote:
Sorry, guys -

I came here to discuss antennas. I am tired of the off-topic trash that
this so-called Gareth is producing. Any thread henceforth originated by
him will be deleted so that I do not have any urge to respond. I will
also delete any thread that responds to his posts as I now see that
there is no hope for a reasonable dialog when he posts to them whether
initiated by him or not.

I will continue to discuss all technical aspects of antennas with those
who wish to do so.

John KD5YI


Yes. I agree! I'm wearing out my delete key on his posts!

Irv VE6BP


Thanks, Irv. That's a refreshing comment.

John KD5YI

Allodoxaphobia[_2_] October 28th 14 12:18 PM

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On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:33:39 -0500, John S wrote:
Sorry, guys -

I came here to discuss antennas. I am tired of the off-topic trash that
this so-called Gareth is producing. Any thread henceforth originated by
him will be deleted so that I do not have any urge to respond. I will
also delete any thread that responds to his posts as I now see that
there is no hope for a reasonable dialog when he posts to them whether
initiated by him or not.


+1 !

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Wayne October 28th 14 04:41 PM

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"John S" wrote in message ...

Sorry, guys -


I came here to discuss antennas. I am tired of the off-topic trash that
this so-called Gareth is producing. Any thread henceforth originated by
him will be deleted so that I do not have any urge to respond. I will
also delete any thread that responds to his posts as I now see that
there is no hope for a reasonable dialog when he posts to them whether
initiated by him or not.


I will continue to discuss all technical aspects of antennas with those
who wish to do so.


John KD5YI


I'm mulling over the same thing.

OTOH, he has managed to get this NG spun up from "dead band" status.

[email protected] October 28th 14 05:35 PM

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On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:41:30 AM UTC-5, Wayne wrote:
"John S" wrote in message ...

Sorry, guys -


I came here to discuss antennas. I am tired of the off-topic trash that
this so-called Gareth is producing. Any thread henceforth originated by
him will be deleted so that I do not have any urge to respond. I will
also delete any thread that responds to his posts as I now see that
there is no hope for a reasonable dialog when he posts to them whether
initiated by him or not.


I will continue to discuss all technical aspects of antennas with those
who wish to do so.


John KD5YI


I'm mulling over the same thing.

OTOH, he has managed to get this NG spun up from "dead band" status.


Is it worth it though... :| I have no problems with his silly
ideas about antennas and such, but he needs to leave the whiny
off topic crap over on the UK sites where it belongs.

I warned him a while back that many would take a decidedly negative
view on that sort of behavior, but like a wayward fruit fly, it seems
to have flown in one ear and got lost in his brain pan where it died
and is slowly rotting away along with his silly ideas about small
antennas. :+

I remain convinced he is one of Art Unwin's long lost UK relatives..
:)





gareth October 28th 14 05:39 PM

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wrote in message
...

Is it worth it though... :| I have no problems with his silly
ideas about antennas and such, but he needs to leave the whiny
off topic crap over on the UK sites where it belongs.


I think that your complaint is with those who have introduced the
unwelcome arrival of abusive personal remarks, and not with those
of us who speak out against it, and in support of decent, adult,
civilised behaviour. (Something I recommend to you yourself in the
light of your tendentious remarks above, BTW)



[email protected] October 28th 14 05:45 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:40:08 PM UTC-5, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...

Is it worth it though... :| I have no problems with his silly
ideas about antennas and such, but he needs to leave the whiny
off topic crap over on the UK sites where it belongs.


I think that your complaint is with those who have introduced the
unwelcome arrival of abusive personal remarks, and not with those
of us who speak out against it, and in support of decent, adult,
civilised behaviour. (Something I recommend to you yourself in the
light of your tendentious remarks above, BTW)


No. You are the one that is constantly cross posting their
crap over to this group. Not them, not me, YOU!!!





gareth October 28th 14 05:46 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:40:08 PM UTC-5, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...

Is it worth it though... :| I have no problems with his silly
ideas about antennas and such, but he needs to leave the whiny
off topic crap over on the UK sites where it belongs.


I think that your complaint is with those who have introduced the
unwelcome arrival of abusive personal remarks, and not with those
of us who speak out against it, and in support of decent, adult,
civilised behaviour. (Something I recommend to you yourself in the
light of your tendentious remarks above, BTW)


No. You are the one that is constantly cross posting their
crap over to this group. Not them, not me, YOU!!!


When people have attacked me in this NG, and their behaviour
elsewhere shows their attacks to be hypocritical, then it is reasonable
that I cross-post as part of my defence in this NG.

( I note that you never criticise those who attack me, I wonder why?)



[email protected] October 28th 14 06:05 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:47:01 PM UTC-5, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:40:08 PM UTC-5, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...

Is it worth it though... :| I have no problems with his silly
ideas about antennas and such, but he needs to leave the whiny
off topic crap over on the UK sites where it belongs.

I think that your complaint is with those who have introduced the
unwelcome arrival of abusive personal remarks, and not with those
of us who speak out against it, and in support of decent, adult,
civilised behaviour. (Something I recommend to you yourself in the
light of your tendentious remarks above, BTW)


No. You are the one that is constantly cross posting their
crap over to this group. Not them, not me, YOU!!!


When people have attacked me in this NG, and their behaviour
elsewhere shows their attacks to be hypocritical, then it is reasonable
that I cross-post as part of my defence in this NG.


NO!!!! It most certainly is not!


( I note that you never criticise those who attack me, I wonder why?)


Because, I really don't care what they think, and I've got lots of other
things to do. You bring it all on yourself from what I can see.
I'm likely driving up to the dirt patch late tonight for a few days of
fun and mayhem. I'll likely be on 3.870 at night if you feel compelled to
knock the batteries off my shoulders.
Go ahead. Make my day.













gareth October 28th 14 06:44 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:47:01 PM UTC-5, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:40:08 PM UTC-5, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...

Is it worth it though... :| I have no problems with his silly
ideas about antennas and such, but he needs to leave the whiny
off topic crap over on the UK sites where it belongs.

I think that your complaint is with those who have introduced the
unwelcome arrival of abusive personal remarks, and not with those
of us who speak out against it, and in support of decent, adult,
civilised behaviour. (Something I recommend to you yourself in the
light of your tendentious remarks above, BTW)

No. You are the one that is constantly cross posting their
crap over to this group. Not them, not me, YOU!!!


When people have attacked me in this NG, and their behaviour
elsewhere shows their attacks to be hypocritical, then it is reasonable
that I cross-post as part of my defence in this NG.


NO!!!! It most certainly is not!


( I note that you never criticise those who attack me, I wonder why?)


Because, I really don't care what they think, and I've got lots of other
things to do. You bring it all on yourself from what I can see.
I'm likely driving up to the dirt patch late tonight for a few days of
fun and mayhem. I'll likely be on 3.870 at night if you feel compelled to
knock the batteries off my shoulders.
Go ahead. Make my day.















gareth October 28th 14 06:44 PM

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wrote in message
...
You bring it all on yourself from what I can see.


How can promotin technical discussion on the one hand, and criticising
infantile outbursts, such as are your, bring anything on?



No A1A required October 28th 14 06:48 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
On 28/10/2014 18:44, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...
You bring it all on yourself from what I can see.


How can promotin technical discussion on the one hand, and criticising
infantile outbursts, such as are your, bring anything on?



Listening and taking things on board has never been one of your strong
points, has it?

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gareth October 28th 14 06:52 PM

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"No A1A required" wrote in message
...

Listening and taking things on board has never been one of your strong
points, has it?


Once again, it is from the keyboard of Not-Ham Hull G7KUJ that the
gratuitous abuse originates.

Readers of rraa may like to know that G7KUJ had for many years
posted matter that purported to come either from my IP
address or from my email address.

What better sign of obsessive behaviour could there be?



rickman October 28th 14 08:10 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
On 10/28/2014 1:39 PM, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...

Is it worth it though... :| I have no problems with his silly
ideas about antennas and such, but he needs to leave the whiny
off topic crap over on the UK sites where it belongs.


I think that your complaint is with those who have introduced the
unwelcome arrival of abusive personal remarks, and not with those
of us who speak out against it, and in support of decent, adult,
civilised behaviour. (Something I recommend to you yourself in the
light of your tendentious remarks above, BTW)


Ignoring the issue of pots and kettles, I will say I sort of agree with
Gareth in that the problem is not really the nonsense that comes out of
his mouth... er keyboard. The problem is the reaction that it stimulates.

I won't try to figure out if Gareth is a troll in the true sense of the
word or if he is just a very strange person who can't seem to
communicate well. The point is that the topics he brings up are well
worth discussing.

So I have to say I am a -1 on the idea of deleting all threads Gareth
starts and certainly I'm not going to kill a thread just because he
posts some sort of nonsense. Rather the problem is responding to him
with personal abuse (even when it would seem to be justified) rather
than just responding to the technical content or just not responding at
all.

If you want to bug anyone, the best way to do it is to continue the
conversation with others as if that person were not here. It would be a
big help to the rest of us here too.

Btw, I have learned a lot from you guys. Being a slow learner
sometimes, the repetition has been very good. :)

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Rick

rickman October 28th 14 08:12 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
On 10/28/2014 2:48 PM, No A1A required wrote:
On 28/10/2014 18:44, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...
You bring it all on yourself from what I can see.


How can promotin technical discussion on the one hand, and criticising
infantile outbursts, such as are your, bring anything on?



Listening and taking things on board has never been one of your strong
points, has it?


I think these last few posts have proved my point. The problem is that
too many posters can't seem to ignore the posts they don't like.

--

Rick

[email protected] October 28th 14 08:53 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:13:11 PM UTC-5, rickman wrote:
On 10/28/2014 2:48 PM, No A1A required wrote:
On 28/10/2014 18:44, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...
You bring it all on yourself from what I can see.

How can promotin technical discussion on the one hand, and criticising
infantile outbursts, such as are your, bring anything on?



Listening and taking things on board has never been one of your strong
points, has it?


I think these last few posts have proved my point. The problem is that
too many posters can't seem to ignore the posts they don't like.

--

Rick


The posts we don't like have nothing "zero, nada, zip, zilch" to
do with antennas. They are crossposts from UK groups where he has
hecklers. Why he thinks we are interested in his UK hecklers, beats
the crap out of me. ???
I have no issues with his actual antenna posts. Of course, I've
already mentioned all this more than once.




gareth October 28th 14 10:20 PM

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wrote in message
...
The posts we don't like have nothing "zero, nada, zip, zilch" to
do with antennas. They are crossposts from UK groups where he has
hecklers. Why he thinks we are interested in his UK hecklers, beats
the crap out of me. ???


Then your complaint is with the hecklers, but I note that you do not
criticise them when they appear only in this NG, reay being a disgraceful
example; disgraceful because he is a moderator of the Yahoo group RSCBTech.

Had you, and the others, spoken out in criticism of his unnecessary and
untechnical
personal attacks, then the situation of what you complain would not have
arisen
to the extent that it did.

I suspect that what has been happening is covered by the old adage, "My
enemy's
enemy is my friend", from several of you.




[email protected] October 28th 14 11:37 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:20:47 PM UTC-5, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...
The posts we don't like have nothing "zero, nada, zip, zilch" to
do with antennas. They are crossposts from UK groups where he has
hecklers. Why he thinks we are interested in his UK hecklers, beats
the crap out of me. ???


Then your complaint is with the hecklers, but I note that you do not
criticise them when they appear only in this NG, reay being a disgraceful
example; disgraceful because he is a moderator of the Yahoo group RSCBTech.


They are not the ones cross posting all the heckler threads. YOU ARE!



Had you, and the others, spoken out in criticism of his unnecessary and
untechnical
personal attacks, then the situation of what you complain would not have
arisen
to the extent that it did.


Why would I want to get involved with your UK hecklers? They aren't
heckling me. I wouldn't even be aware of them, except YOU keep
cross posting the crap over to here, where it doesn't belong.
Which then attracts them over here to further stir the doo-doo pot.
:(


I suspect that what has been happening is covered by the old adage, "My
enemy's
enemy is my friend", from several of you.


I suspect you are confusing me with someone who gives a crap about you
and your UK social issues. :|



rickman October 28th 14 11:45 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
On 10/28/2014 4:53 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:13:11 PM UTC-5, rickman wrote:
On 10/28/2014 2:48 PM, No A1A required wrote:
On 28/10/2014 18:44, gareth wrote:
wrote in message
...
You bring it all on yourself from what I can see.

How can promotin technical discussion on the one hand, and criticising
infantile outbursts, such as are your, bring anything on?



Listening and taking things on board has never been one of your strong
points, has it?


I think these last few posts have proved my point. The problem is that
too many posters can't seem to ignore the posts they don't like.

--

Rick


The posts we don't like have nothing "zero, nada, zip, zilch" to
do with antennas. They are crossposts from UK groups where he has
hecklers. Why he thinks we are interested in his UK hecklers, beats
the crap out of me. ???
I have no issues with his actual antenna posts. Of course, I've
already mentioned all this more than once.


You clearly don't grasp what I am saying. You keep responding to his
crap posts. Even just complaining that his posts are crap is feeding
him and encouraging him to post more.

He replied to this same message I am replying to, then you replied to
his reply, on and on. Can't you see the pattern? It involves you as
much as him.

I'm going to refrain from commenting about this further. At this point
there is nothing I can add to the discussion. All of the points I have
made are very obvious to anyone who wishes to consider them. I am just
part of the problem and I will try to end that.

--

Rick

Judith October 29th 14 11:06 AM

Deleting Gareth
 
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:20:29 -0000, "gareth"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
The posts we don't like have nothing "zero, nada, zip, zilch" to
do with antennas. They are crossposts from UK groups where he has
hecklers. Why he thinks we are interested in his UK hecklers, beats
the crap out of me. ???


Then your complaint is with the hecklers, but I note that you do not
criticise them when they appear only in this NG, reay being a disgraceful
example; disgraceful because he is a moderator of the Yahoo group RSCBTech.



Where is the RSCBtech group?

I cannot find it on Yahoo...

gareth October 29th 14 11:52 AM

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wrote in message
...
Why would I want to get involved with your UK hecklers?


Because they have come over here to pollute this NG and not via
crossposting, and it is very noticeable that you did not at any time
attack them for doing that.




Jerry Stuckle October 29th 14 01:56 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
On 10/29/2014 7:06 AM, Judith wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:20:29 -0000, "gareth"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
The posts we don't like have nothing "zero, nada, zip, zilch" to
do with antennas. They are crossposts from UK groups where he has
hecklers. Why he thinks we are interested in his UK hecklers, beats
the crap out of me. ???


Then your complaint is with the hecklers, but I note that you do not
criticise them when they appear only in this NG, reay being a disgraceful
example; disgraceful because he is a moderator of the Yahoo group RSCBTech.



Where is the RSCBtech group?

I cannot find it on Yahoo...


Judith, it's RSGBtech. RSCB is gareth's way of denigrating the group.
He doesn't like anything about the RSGB.

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Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI October 29th 14 03:58 PM

Deleting Gareth
 
On 27/10/14 17:33, John S wrote:
Sorry, guys -

I came here to discuss antennas. I am tired of the off-topic trash that
this so-called Gareth is producing. Any thread henceforth originated by
him will be deleted so that I do not have any urge to respond. I will
also delete any thread that responds to his posts as I now see that
there is no hope for a reasonable dialog when he posts to them whether
initiated by him or not.

I will continue to discuss all technical aspects of antennas with those
who wish to do so.

John KD5YI


Just kill file the ****.

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