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November 2nd 14, 10:22 PM
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No antennae radiate all the power fed to them!
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November 2nd 14, 10:55 PM
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Lostgallifreyan wrote:
wrote in : There is no undiscovered magic in superconductors. There was no magic in any of the materials used for Gemini and Apollo either, but countelss things were learned just by using them out there. Care to name a few specifically from Genini and Apollo? And BTW, 99.9% of the materials used is aluminum. -- Jim Pennino |
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November 2nd 14, 11:09 PM
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November 3rd 14, 12:15 AM
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Lostgallifreyan wrote:
wrote in : Care to name a few specifically from Genini and Apollo? And BTW, 99.9% of the materials used is aluminum. Maybe I'm imagining too far back. What I'm getting at is that a lot of stuff we use on Earth came out of developments intended for, and used in, space. I think semicinductors in future will follow a similar path. To what extent I have no idea, but I think it likely. So again, I say that the use OUTside a space vehicle is no great leap once they're already inside one. It WAS transistor development that was pushed by the space race as tubes are very heavy in comparison and use lots of power. One more time, we already know EXACTLY how an antenna made of a superconductor would work, both on Earth and in space. -- Jim Pennino |
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November 3rd 14, 09:44 AM
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November 3rd 14, 12:17 AM
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/2/2014 4:55 PM, wrote: Lostgallifreyan wrote: wrote in : There is no undiscovered magic in superconductors. There was no magic in any of the materials used for Gemini and Apollo either, but countelss things were learned just by using them out there. Care to name a few specifically from Genini and Apollo? And BTW, 99.9% of the materials used is aluminum. Much of the medical monitoring technology came out of the early space program, for one thing. So did advances in propulsion systems and remote controls (more than just model planes and cars) for another. True, but none of that came from throwing the stuff up into space just to see what would happen. -- Jim Pennino |
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November 3rd 14, 01:56 AM
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On 11/2/2014 6:17 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/2/2014 4:55 PM, wrote: Lostgallifreyan wrote: wrote in : There is no undiscovered magic in superconductors. There was no magic in any of the materials used for Gemini and Apollo either, but countelss things were learned just by using them out there. Care to name a few specifically from Genini and Apollo? And BTW, 99.9% of the materials used is aluminum. Much of the medical monitoring technology came out of the early space program, for one thing. So did advances in propulsion systems and remote controls (more than just model planes and cars) for another. True, but none of that came from throwing the stuff up into space just to see what would happen. No, but they all came from the space race (Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs) - which was your question. And since then, there have been all kinds of experiments on various orbiting objects such as MIR, Skylab, the space shuttle and ISS. Many discoveries are coming out of it - although I don't know offhand what's been put to use yet, since there is no manufacturing in space. But thinks like perfectly round ball bearings and new ways to make pharmaceuticals come to mind. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry, AI0K ================== |
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#9
November 3rd 14, 06:54 PM
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/2/2014 6:17 PM, wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/2/2014 4:55 PM, wrote: Lostgallifreyan wrote: wrote in : There is no undiscovered magic in superconductors. There was no magic in any of the materials used for Gemini and Apollo either, but countelss things were learned just by using them out there. Care to name a few specifically from Genini and Apollo? And BTW, 99.9% of the materials used is aluminum. Much of the medical monitoring technology came out of the early space program, for one thing. So did advances in propulsion systems and remote controls (more than just model planes and cars) for another. True, but none of that came from throwing the stuff up into space just to see what would happen. No, but they all came from the space race (Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs) - which was your question. Nope, my question was what came from throwing the stuff up into space just to see what would happen. Perhaps I should have phrased it more clearly. And since then, there have been all kinds of experiments on various orbiting objects such as MIR, Skylab, the space shuttle and ISS. Many discoveries are coming out of it - although I don't know offhand what's been put to use yet, since there is no manufacturing in space. But thinks like perfectly round ball bearings and new ways to make pharmaceuticals come to mind. All of which revolve around the concept of doing something dynamic in a zero gravity environment. None of it has anything to do with some material showing some new and hitherto unknown property simply by being in such an environment. Take ball bearings for example. It has long been known that absent an external force, i.e. gravity, that a liquid will form into a sphere due to surface tension. -- Jim Pennino |
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November 3rd 14, 09:47 AM
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