On 11/20/2014 3:19 PM, John S wrote:
On 11/15/2014 7:33 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/15/2014 4:38 PM, wrote:
The following shows the effect on elevation pattern for a 1/2 wave
dipole antenna over ground at various heights for perfect, very good,
average, and extremely ground.

The important value to note is the elevation angle for the main lobe.

Generally for DX an elevation angle at or below 30 degrees is desirable
and for NVIS an angle above 60 degrees.

The elevation angles apply to any dipole type antenna, such as a G5RV,
OCF dipole, etc. but the absolute gain values will be quite different.

Also some types of dipoles have more lobes than the two of the 1/2
wave dipole; those lobes will still be elevated.

Perfect V good Avg Ext poor
Height gain @ elev gain @ elev gain @ elev
gain @ elev
0.10 8.6 90 6.3 90 4.4 90 3.1 90
0.15 8.4 90 7.1 90 5.8 90 4.3 90
0.20 8.0 90 7.1 90 6.1 90 4.6 66
0.25 7.4 90 6.7 68 5.9 61 4.8 50
0.30 6.9 56 6.4 51 5.9 48 5.1 41
0.35 6.8 45 6.5 42 6.1 40 5.4 35
0.40 7.1 39 6.9 36 6.5 35 5.8 31
0.45 7.7 33 7.5 32 7.0 31 6.3 28
0.50 8.3 30 8.1 29 7.6 28 6.7 25
0.55 8.9 27 8.5 26 7.9 25 6.9 23
0.60 9.1 25 8.6 24 8.0 23 6.9 21
0.65 8.9 23 8.4 22 7.8 21 6.9 20
0.70 8.5 21 8.0 20 7.6 20 6.8 18
0.75 8.0 19 7.7 19 7.3 18 6.7 17
0.80 7.6 18 7.4 18 7.2 17 6.7 16
0.85 7.5 17 7.4 17 7.2 16 6.7 15
0.90 7.6 16 7.5 16 7.3 15 6.9 15
0.95 7.8 15 7.7 15 7.5 15 7.1 14


Special note:

Most people understand that the results of an antenna analysis program
reflect the material used to construct the antenna and the type of
ground, if any, used for the analysis, are an approximation, and are
not accurate to 27 decimal places.

Further, most people also understand that absent them being a part of
the model used for the analysis, objects in the near field of the
antenna,
such as, but not limited to, 20 foot prision walls, blimp hangers,
skyscrapers, a deluge of biblical proportions, giant sequoia trees,
hovering 2 mile wide alien spacecraft, hords of locusts, large gold
deposits under the antenna, battles between Autobots and Decepticons,
beached aircraft carriers, and stadium domes may well effect the
actual antenna perfomance.

Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited.

Any spelling mistakes in this article are all entirly my fault. Any
grammer
errors spotted in this article were put there because I could.



Very good. You can cut and paste. Too bad you can't understand what
you're cutting and pasting, especially how to apply it.


Jerry, all the crap on this thread is your fault because of your
statement above. Can you even imagine how it might have gone had you
been a gentleman or had remained silent?

Shame on you for this and shame on Jim for continuing to bait you. You
two are ruining this group.

Why? Because I call a troll what he is?

You don't like it - quite frankly, I don't give a damn. I will continue
to call trolls exactly what they are.

I'm long past the age that I give a damn what trolls or anonymous
posters care about.

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On 21/11/2014 11:23 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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Any spelling mistakes in this article are all entirly my fault. Any

Jerry, all the crap on this thread is your fault because of your
statement above. Can you even imagine how it might have gone had you
been a gentleman or had remained silent?

Shame on you for this and shame on Jim for continuing to bait you. You
two are ruining this group.

Why? Because I call a troll what he is?

because you abuse anyone whos opinion differs from yours no matter how
wrong ( thats often?)

You don't like it - quite frankly, I don't give a damn. I will continue
to call trolls exactly what they are.
so you have no regards for the opinion of others especially when you
are wrong


I'm long past the age that I give a damn what trolls or anonymous
posters care about.

bury your face in a pillow sticky , do a favour eh .

we have two ears and one mouth for a reason sticky , time for you to
use them in proportion .

On 11/20/2014 8:48 PM, atec77 wrote:
On 21/11/2014 11:23 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snipped
Any spelling mistakes in this article are all entirly my fault. Any

Jerry, all the crap on this thread is your fault because of your
statement above. Can you even imagine how it might have gone had you
been a gentleman or had remained silent?

Shame on you for this and shame on Jim for continuing to bait you. You
two are ruining this group.

Why? Because I call a troll what he is?

because you abuse anyone whos opinion differs from yours no matter how
wrong ( thats often?)

Only trolls - which, BTW, includes you. Most people on usenet I have a
lot of respect for.


You don't like it - quite frankly, I don't give a damn. I will continue
to call trolls exactly what they are.
so you have no regards for the opinion of others especially when you
are wrong


I'm long past the age that I give a damn what trolls or anonymous
posters care about.

bury your face in a pillow sticky , do a favour eh .

we have two ears and one mouth for a reason sticky , time for you to
use them in proportion .



You should speak for yourself - and you're third grade name calling,
something that only trolls do. More proof.

No wonder you want to remain anonymous. If I were as stoopid as you, I
wouldn't want anyone else to know, either.

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On 21/11/2014 12:56 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrotenymous


bury your face in a pillow sticky , do a favour eh .

we have two ears and one mouth for a reason sticky , time for you to
use them in proportion .



You should speak for yourself -
I have did and will continue to do so old man
and you're third grade name calling,
something that only trolls do.

now thats untrue no matter how many times you falsely make the claim


No wonder you want to remain anonymous.


common sense dictates that move , something you have sfa off old man

If I were as stoopid as you,

you mean as smart , having demonstrated yet again how silly you really
are


I wouldn't want anyone else to know, either.

then stop typing and remain quite , we might forget how silly you are
but most certainly you cant resist my charms

On 11/21/2014 12:38 AM, the well-known troll atec77 wrote:
On 21/11/2014 12:56 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrotenymous


bury your face in a pillow sticky , do a favour eh .

we have two ears and one mouth for a reason sticky , time for you to
use them in proportion .



You should speak for yourself -
I have did and will continue to do so old man
and you're third grade name calling,
something that only trolls do.

now thats untrue no matter how many times you falsely make the claim


You're right. Third graders do it, also. Which are you?


No wonder you want to remain anonymous.


common sense dictates that move , something you have sfa off old man


ROFLMAO!

If I were as stoopid as you,

you mean as smart , having demonstrated yet again how silly you really are


Nope, I mean as stoopid as you are. But trolls don't understand just
how stoopid they are - as you have once again proven.


I wouldn't want anyone else to know, either.

then stop typing and remain quite , we might forget how silly you are
but most certainly you cant resist my charms



Yes, I suggest you do so. No one here cares what trolls like you say -
other than maybe other trolls.

No wonder you try to remain anonymous. If I were in your shoes, I
wouldn't want anyone else to know how stoopid I was, either.

Unlike you, I'm not ashamed of what I say - and not afraid and have to
hide behind an 'nym and a fake email address.

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On 11/21/2014 8:30 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/21/2014 12:38 AM, the well-known troll atec77 wrote:
On 21/11/2014 12:56 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrotenymous


bury your face in a pillow sticky , do a favour eh .

we have two ears and one mouth for a reason sticky , time for you to
use them in proportion .



You should speak for yourself -
I have did and will continue to do so old man
and you're third grade name calling,
something that only trolls do.

now thats untrue no matter how many times you falsely make the claim


You're right. Third graders do it, also. Which are you?


No wonder you want to remain anonymous.


common sense dictates that move , something you have sfa off old man


ROFLMAO!

If I were as stoopid as you,

you mean as smart , having demonstrated yet again how silly you really are


Nope, I mean as stoopid as you are. But trolls don't understand just
how stoopid they are - as you have once again proven.


I wouldn't want anyone else to know, either.

then stop typing and remain quite , we might forget how silly you are
but most certainly you cant resist my charms



Yes, I suggest you do so. No one here cares what trolls like you say -
other than maybe other trolls.

No wonder you try to remain anonymous. If I were in your shoes, I
wouldn't want anyone else to know how stoopid I was, either.

Unlike you, I'm not ashamed of what I say - and not afraid and have to
hide behind an 'nym and a fake email address.


Well, you have demonstrated that you are so stupid that you cannot even
spell stupid.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stoopid&defid=3449463

On 22/11/2014 4:31 AM, John S wrote:


Well, you have demonstrated that you are so stupid that you cannot even
spell stupid.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stoopid&defid=3449463
He has been reading the rod speed book of internet stupidity

lie enough and still no one believes you

On 11/21/2014 1:31 PM, John S wrote:
On 11/21/2014 8:30 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/21/2014 12:38 AM, the well-known troll atec77 wrote:
On 21/11/2014 12:56 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrotenymous


bury your face in a pillow sticky , do a favour eh .

we have two ears and one mouth for a reason sticky , time for
you to
use them in proportion .



You should speak for yourself -
I have did and will continue to do so old man
and you're third grade name calling,
something that only trolls do.

now thats untrue no matter how many times you falsely make the claim


You're right. Third graders do it, also. Which are you?


No wonder you want to remain anonymous.


common sense dictates that move , something you have sfa off old man


ROFLMAO!

If I were as stoopid as you,

you mean as smart , having demonstrated yet again how silly you
really are


Nope, I mean as stoopid as you are. But trolls don't understand just
how stoopid they are - as you have once again proven.


I wouldn't want anyone else to know, either.

then stop typing and remain quite , we might forget how silly you are
but most certainly you cant resist my charms



Yes, I suggest you do so. No one here cares what trolls like you say -
other than maybe other trolls.

No wonder you try to remain anonymous. If I were in your shoes, I
wouldn't want anyone else to know how stoopid I was, either.

Unlike you, I'm not ashamed of what I say - and not afraid and have to
hide behind an 'nym and a fake email address.


Well, you have demonstrated that you are so stupid that you cannot even
spell stupid.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stoopid&defid=3449463

Nope, in your case it is STOOPID.

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