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Smarty February 14th 15 08:33 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
I have had an amateur radio license for 57 years, and have operated
virtually all modes over this time including sideband, CW, fast and slow
scan television, radio teletype, and some other digital modes, on both HF
and VHF / UHF frequencies.

Not until my recent arrival on Usenet newsgroups did I discover this
additional source of timely amateur information.

I am disgusted and utterly appalled at the total lack of good judgment and
appropriate behavior, to say nothing of common courtesy and ham radio
civility which shows up here on occasion.

In particular, the thread in this newsgroup dealing with a most unfortunate
spat between individuals who happened to have ham radio licenses is
inexcusably inappropriate.

I feel embarrassed to be a member of a group who allow this type of
behavior to go unchecked. I sincerely request that those responsible for
posting such material, entirely and utterly unrelated to amateur radio,
take their childish battle off of this news group and any other amateur
radio news group. It is hardly worthy of a children's playground behavior,
let alone a meeting place for technically educated adults.

Smarty

Rob[_8_] February 14th 15 08:41 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
Smarty wrote:
I have had an amateur radio license for 57 years, and have operated
virtually all modes over this time including sideband, CW, fast and slow
scan television, radio teletype, and some other digital modes, on both HF
and VHF / UHF frequencies.

Not until my recent arrival on Usenet newsgroups did I discover this
additional source of timely amateur information.

I am disgusted and utterly appalled at the total lack of good judgment and
appropriate behavior, to say nothing of common courtesy and ham radio
civility which shows up here on occasion.

In particular, the thread in this newsgroup dealing with a most unfortunate
spat between individuals who happened to have ham radio licenses is
inexcusably inappropriate.

I feel embarrassed to be a member of a group who allow this type of
behavior to go unchecked. I sincerely request that those responsible for
posting such material, entirely and utterly unrelated to amateur radio,
take their childish battle off of this news group and any other amateur
radio news group. It is hardly worthy of a children's playground behavior,
let alone a meeting place for technically educated adults.

Smarty


You arrived on usenet too late. It was a good discussion platform
when many experts exchanged valuable ideas, but it fell victim of
the new developments in IT and internet, and general unwillingness
to adapt. Most users who wanted a modern system left for the forums
and later the social media, and what was left was a group of unmannered
and often autistic folks who are not a good representation of the
community, no matter if it is amateur radio or another topic that is
being discussed.

Usenet as a discussion platform as it is now should not be taken
seriously. It is in its late stages of dying. What is left of usenet
is now mainly used for binary file transfer.
The discussions that once took place on usenet are now on forums,
blogs, twitter and facebook. It can be seen as a pity, but the blame
mostly falls on the usenet maintainers.

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)

[email protected] February 14th 15 09:02 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)


If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.



--
Jim Pennino

Rob[_8_] February 14th 15 09:21 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
wrote:
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)


If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.


I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.

When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.

gareth February 14th 15 10:42 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
"Smarty" wrote in message
...

In particular, the thread in this newsgroup dealing with a most
unfortunate
spat between individuals who happened to have ham radio licenses is
inexcusably inappropriate.


It is not a spat between individuals; it is a one sided vindictive campaign,
a vendetta, by Tomlinson directed at me for which I reserve the right
of reply.

Tomlinson frequently arrives out-of-the-blue spitting feathers from
his spleen when I have been involved in unrelated threads, despite
that I am a champion for the very civility and decency that you seek.

It is an unfortunate truism that there are those from your side of the
pond, jimp, stuckle and john s to name but three who are also immature
spleen a-venters.




[email protected] February 15th 15 12:57 AM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)


If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.


I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.


Only since 1994; a newbee then.

When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.


The idea that USENET should be ASCII comes from the desire that it be
usable with ANY terminal out there. There are STILL lots of ASCII
only newreaders out there. A lot of people do not use web browsers
to interact with USENET.

Attachments have ALWAYS been allowed if uuencoded; all real newsreaders
support uuencode/uudecode.

There are NO "prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms" for the alt. groups
and it is blazingly obvious to the most casual observer what that
leads too.


--
Jim Pennino

jta February 15th 15 01:38 AM

Your first sentence sums up the problem: You are too immature to rise above it or ignore those posts. Thus, you become the problem.

There is no reason to reply. All you do is toss petrol on the fire.

Stop feeding the trolls!

Jerry Stuckle February 15th 15 01:49 AM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
On 2/14/2015 7:57 PM, wrote:
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)

If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.


I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.


Only since 1994; a newbee then.


Like you...

When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.


The idea that USENET should be ASCII comes from the desire that it be
usable with ANY terminal out there. There are STILL lots of ASCII
only newreaders out there. A lot of people do not use web browsers
to interact with USENET.


Not entirely. There was also the fact that many people were using slow
modem connections and were being charged by the byte (which is still
true in some parts of the world today). HTML unnecessarily increased
download time and bytes transferred.

Attachments have ALWAYS been allowed if uuencoded; all real newsreaders
support uuencode/uudecode.


Not necessarily. Some news servers don't accept any attachments; others
don't accept binary attachments.

There are NO "prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms" for the alt. groups
and it is blazingly obvious to the most casual observer what that
leads too.



And many news servers don't cary many of the alt.* groups. They're not
as well supported as the big eight.


--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle

==================

[email protected] February 15th 15 02:22 AM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 2/14/2015 7:57 PM, wrote:
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)

If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.

I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.


Only since 1994; a newbee then.


Like you...

When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.


The idea that USENET should be ASCII comes from the desire that it be
usable with ANY terminal out there. There are STILL lots of ASCII
only newreaders out there. A lot of people do not use web browsers
to interact with USENET.


Not entirely. There was also the fact that many people were using slow
modem connections and were being charged by the byte (which is still
true in some parts of the world today). HTML unnecessarily increased
download time and bytes transferred.


As does not snipping previous diaglog...

Attachments have ALWAYS been allowed if uuencoded; all real newsreaders
support uuencode/uudecode.


Not necessarily. Some news servers don't accept any attachments; others
don't accept binary attachments.


If an attachment is uuencoded, a news server doesn't know what the
attachment is. The majority of the prohibitions against attachments
were on a group basis and enforced by a UDP for blatant repeat offenders.


There are NO "prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms" for the alt. groups
and it is blazingly obvious to the most casual observer what that
leads too.



And many news servers don't cary many of the alt.* groups. They're not
as well supported as the big eight.


Which is but one of the effects of there being no "prohibitive bureaucratic
mechanisms" applied to the alt. groups.


--
Jim Pennino

Jerry Stuckle February 15th 15 03:04 AM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
On 2/14/2015 9:22 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 2/14/2015 7:57 PM,
wrote:
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)

If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.

I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.

Only since 1994; a newbee then.


Like you...

When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.

The idea that USENET should be ASCII comes from the desire that it be
usable with ANY terminal out there. There are STILL lots of ASCII
only newreaders out there. A lot of people do not use web browsers
to interact with USENET.


Not entirely. There was also the fact that many people were using slow
modem connections and were being charged by the byte (which is still
true in some parts of the world today). HTML unnecessarily increased
download time and bytes transferred.


As does not snipping previous diaglog...


I snipped what I deemed was appropriate. Sorry if that doesn't suit the
trolls.


Attachments have ALWAYS been allowed if uuencoded; all real newsreaders
support uuencode/uudecode.


Not necessarily. Some news servers don't accept any attachments; others
don't accept binary attachments.


If an attachment is uuencoded, a news server doesn't know what the
attachment is. The majority of the prohibitions against attachments
were on a group basis and enforced by a UDP for blatant repeat offenders.


Once again you show your ignorance.


There are NO "prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms" for the alt. groups
and it is blazingly obvious to the most casual observer what that
leads too.



And many news servers don't cary many of the alt.* groups. They're not
as well supported as the big eight.


Which is but one of the effects of there being no "prohibitive bureaucratic
mechanisms" applied to the alt. groups.



No, it's because most of the news servers don't want trolls creating
thousands of newsgroups which aren't used.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

[email protected] February 15th 15 07:21 AM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

I snipped what I deemed was appropriate. Sorry if that doesn't suit the
trolls.


And he is off and running...

snip

No, it's because most of the news servers don't want trolls creating
thousands of newsgroups which aren't used.


Point totally missed as usual as Jerry Stuckle the magnificent climbs
atop his high horse off to tilt at "trolls".



--
Jim Pennino

Rob[_8_] February 15th 15 09:31 AM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
wrote:
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)

If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.


I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.


Only since 1994; a newbee then.


Do you really think you should start a ****ing contest to win an argument?
Lame...

When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.


The idea that USENET should be ASCII comes from the desire that it be
usable with ANY terminal out there. There are STILL lots of ASCII
only newreaders out there. A lot of people do not use web browsers
to interact with USENET.


I already told you that I have seen the debate more than often enough.
It is like the hams who think that only CW should be used because it
is the best mode for weak signal work and they have all the equipment.
They have focussed so strongly on that, that they did not see the world
around them has changed. They keep hammering out the same thing even
when it is no longer true.

Attachments have ALWAYS been allowed if uuencoded; all real newsreaders
support uuencode/uudecode.


What I mean is that charters and server policies explicitly disallow
them, and that there are active "guardians" on groups, and even robots,
that go after those that post them.

This meant that a discussion that requires a simple drawing or schematic
for clarification could not be held on usenet, and people went to places
where it was no problem. In the first stage, those were the webforums.

This was very unfortunate because it fragmented the community, now you
had to look on a specific forum instead of "on usenet" which was more
like a network of forums. The usenet people failed to see that and
stubbornly held to their sacred 80-character fixed font paradigm, while
the rest of the world moved on to flowed paragraphs, inline illustrations,
simple markup, etc. But they lost the common communication platform
in that process.
(had the usenet guardians not be so stubborn, the web forums could have
used usenet as their underlying message store and forward layer)

There are NO "prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms" for the alt. groups
and it is blazingly obvious to the most casual observer what that
leads too.


There are always pros and cons to "there should be law and order".

gareth February 15th 15 12:25 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
"jta" wrote in message
...

Your first sentence sums up the problem: You are too immature to rise
above it or ignore those posts. Thus, you become the problem.
There is no reason to reply. All you do is toss petrol on the fire.
Stop feeding the trolls!


Another hypocrite with an holier-than-thou stance who resorts
to the very abuse that he sought to proscribe.



Jerry Stuckle February 15th 15 01:36 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
On 2/15/2015 4:31 AM, Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)

If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.

I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.


Only since 1994; a newbee then.


Do you really think you should start a ****ing contest to win an argument?
Lame...


That's trolls for you...

When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.


The idea that USENET should be ASCII comes from the desire that it be
usable with ANY terminal out there. There are STILL lots of ASCII
only newreaders out there. A lot of people do not use web browsers
to interact with USENET.


I already told you that I have seen the debate more than often enough.
It is like the hams who think that only CW should be used because it
is the best mode for weak signal work and they have all the equipment.
They have focussed so strongly on that, that they did not see the world
around them has changed. They keep hammering out the same thing even
when it is no longer true.


There is nothing wrong with CW. However, I have, in over 47 years of
being a ham, seen ANYONE say "only CW should be used...". Lame.

Attachments have ALWAYS been allowed if uuencoded; all real newsreaders
support uuencode/uudecode.


What I mean is that charters and server policies explicitly disallow
them, and that there are active "guardians" on groups, and even robots,
that go after those that post them.


It's up to the people who proposed the newsgroup as to whether they
allow attachments or not. And if attachments are banned, I see no
reason why the ban should not be enforced.

This meant that a discussion that requires a simple drawing or schematic
for clarification could not be held on usenet, and people went to places
where it was no problem. In the first stage, those were the webforums.


So? There never was a problem with uploading the image to a server and
pointing people to it. We did that back in the early 80's. We even did
it in the 70's when we use mail lists as the precursor to usenet.

This was very unfortunate because it fragmented the community, now you
had to look on a specific forum instead of "on usenet" which was more
like a network of forums. The usenet people failed to see that and
stubbornly held to their sacred 80-character fixed font paradigm, while
the rest of the world moved on to flowed paragraphs, inline illustrations,
simple markup, etc. But they lost the common communication platform
in that process.
(had the usenet guardians not be so stubborn, the web forums could have
used usenet as their underlying message store and forward layer)


No, Usenet was designed as a text-based network, and nothing has changed
that. It still has its purpose. And if you don't like it, there are
always web-based forums.

What HAS killed usenet is the trolls driving people away. At least with
web-based forums you can ban trolls. Not possible on usenet.

There are NO "prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms" for the alt. groups
and it is blazingly obvious to the most casual observer what that
leads too.


There are always pros and cons to "there should be law and order".


--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

Jerry Stuckle February 15th 15 02:12 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
On 2/15/2015 2:21 AM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

I snipped what I deemed was appropriate. Sorry if that doesn't suit the
trolls.


And he is off and running...

snip

No, it's because most of the news servers don't want trolls creating
thousands of newsgroups which aren't used.


Point totally missed as usual as Jerry Stuckle the magnificent climbs
atop his high horse off to tilt at "trolls".




The shoe fits...

But then trolls don't like me. And I really don't care.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

jta February 15th 15 02:37 PM

Ahhh, you prove my point! You cannot see the truth when it's right at the end of your own nose.

You want the flames to end? Then stop the flaming! You have the power to do so.

[email protected] February 15th 15 07:22 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 2/15/2015 2:21 AM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

I snipped what I deemed was appropriate. Sorry if that doesn't suit the
trolls.


And he is off and running...

snip

No, it's because most of the news servers don't want trolls creating
thousands of newsgroups which aren't used.


Point totally missed as usual as Jerry Stuckle the magnificent climbs
atop his high horse off to tilt at "trolls".




The shoe fits...


Non sequitur.


But then trolls don't like me. And I really don't care.


Not everything is about you.


--
Jim Pennino

[email protected] February 15th 15 07:28 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)

If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.

I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.


Only since 1994; a newbee then.


Do you really think you should start a ****ing contest to win an argument?
Lame...


What argument?


When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.


The idea that USENET should be ASCII comes from the desire that it be
usable with ANY terminal out there. There are STILL lots of ASCII
only newreaders out there. A lot of people do not use web browsers
to interact with USENET.


I already told you that I have seen the debate more than often enough.


Yep, but you had three points so I addressed three points.

It is like the hams who think that only CW should be used because it
is the best mode for weak signal work and they have all the equipment.
They have focussed so strongly on that, that they did not see the world
around them has changed. They keep hammering out the same thing even
when it is no longer true.

Attachments have ALWAYS been allowed if uuencoded; all real newsreaders
support uuencode/uudecode.


What I mean is that charters and server policies explicitly disallow
them, and that there are active "guardians" on groups, and even robots,
that go after those that post them.

This meant that a discussion that requires a simple drawing or schematic
for clarification could not be held on usenet, and people went to places
where it was no problem. In the first stage, those were the webforums.


Again, it has always been allowed on groups where it was appropriate.

This was very unfortunate because it fragmented the community, now you
had to look on a specific forum instead of "on usenet" which was more
like a network of forums. The usenet people failed to see that and
stubbornly held to their sacred 80-character fixed font paradigm, while
the rest of the world moved on to flowed paragraphs, inline illustrations,
simple markup, etc. But they lost the common communication platform
in that process.
(had the usenet guardians not be so stubborn, the web forums could have
used usenet as their underlying message store and forward layer)

There are NO "prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms" for the alt. groups
and it is blazingly obvious to the most casual observer what that
leads too.


There are always pros and cons to "there should be law and order".


--
Jim Pennino

[email protected] February 15th 15 07:30 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

That's trolls for you...


Trolls to the left of him.
Trolls to the right of him.
Into the valley of flames...

--
Jim Pennino

John S February 15th 15 07:59 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
On 2/15/2015 1:28 PM, wrote:
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)

If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.

I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.

Only since 1994; a newbee then.


Do you really think you should start a ****ing contest to win an argument?
Lame...


What argument?


When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.

The idea that USENET should be ASCII comes from the desire that it be
usable with ANY terminal out there. There are STILL lots of ASCII
only newreaders out there. A lot of people do not use web browsers
to interact with USENET.


I already told you that I have seen the debate more than often enough.


Yep, but you had three points so I addressed three points.

It is like the hams who think that only CW should be used because it
is the best mode for weak signal work and they have all the equipment.
They have focussed so strongly on that, that they did not see the world
around them has changed. They keep hammering out the same thing even
when it is no longer true.

Attachments have ALWAYS been allowed if uuencoded; all real newsreaders
support uuencode/uudecode.


What I mean is that charters and server policies explicitly disallow
them, and that there are active "guardians" on groups, and even robots,
that go after those that post them.

This meant that a discussion that requires a simple drawing or schematic
for clarification could not be held on usenet, and people went to places
where it was no problem. In the first stage, those were the webforums.


Again, it has always been allowed on groups where it was appropriate.

This was very unfortunate because it fragmented the community, now you
had to look on a specific forum instead of "on usenet" which was more
like a network of forums. The usenet people failed to see that and
stubbornly held to their sacred 80-character fixed font paradigm, while
the rest of the world moved on to flowed paragraphs, inline illustrations,
simple markup, etc. But they lost the common communication platform
in that process.
(had the usenet guardians not be so stubborn, the web forums could have
used usenet as their underlying message store and forward layer)

There are NO "prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms" for the alt. groups
and it is blazingly obvious to the most casual observer what that
leads too.


There are always pros and cons to "there should be law and order".



Ask not for whom the bell trolls. It trolls for thee...

gareth February 15th 15 08:22 PM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
"jta" wrote in message
...
Your first sentence sums up the problem: You are too immature to rise
above it or ignore those posts. Thus, you become the problem.
There is no reason to reply. All you do is toss petrol on the fire.
Stop feeding the trolls!-

Ahhh, you prove my point! You cannot see the truth when it's right at
the end of your own nose.

You want the flames to end? Then stop the flaming! You have the power to
do so.


Another hypocrite with an holier-than-thou stance who resorts
to the very abuse that he sought to proscribe.



Jerry Stuckle February 16th 15 12:07 AM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
On 2/15/2015 2:22 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 2/15/2015 2:21 AM,
wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

I snipped what I deemed was appropriate. Sorry if that doesn't suit the
trolls.

And he is off and running...

snip

No, it's because most of the news servers don't want trolls creating
thousands of newsgroups which aren't used.

Point totally missed as usual as Jerry Stuckle the magnificent climbs
atop his high horse off to tilt at "trolls".




The shoe fits...


Non sequitur.


I knew you wouldn't understand. But everyone else here did. Such are
trolls.


But then trolls don't like me. And I really don't care.


Not everything is about you.



Nope, but your trolling here is.

And you are all about trolling.

--
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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

Jerry Stuckle February 16th 15 12:08 AM

Disgusting behavious by hams
 
On 2/15/2015 2:59 PM, John S wrote:


Ask not for whom the bell trolls. It trolls for thee...


ROFLMAO! I love it!

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[email protected] February 16th 15 12:42 AM

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

I knew you wouldn't understand. But everyone else here did. Such are
trolls.


trolls trolls trolls...

Here a troll, there a troll, EVERYWHERE a troll..



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Jerry Stuckle February 16th 15 06:30 PM

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On 2/15/2015 7:42 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

I knew you wouldn't understand. But everyone else here did. Such are
trolls.


trolls trolls trolls...

Here a troll, there a troll, EVERYWHERE a troll..




A typical troll response.

There are just a couple in this newsgroup. But you're at the top of the
list.

How does it feel to finally be the best at something? But then this
isn't the only newsgroup you're known for trolling, is it?

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[email protected] February 16th 15 08:12 PM

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

A typical troll response.



Trollin', trollin', trollin' on the river of ****


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Jerry Stuckle February 16th 15 09:19 PM

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On 2/16/2015 3:12 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

A typical troll response.



Trollin', trollin', trollin' on the river of ****



ROFLMAO! Another typical troll response. Is that all you know?

I guess so - you're completely unable to otherwise carry on a
discussion. But I guess this makes you feel like people care.

Here's a hint, troll. We don't.

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[email protected] February 16th 15 10:15 PM

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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ROFLMAO! Another typical troll response. Is that all you know?


trolls trolls trolls trolls...


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Jerry Stuckle February 17th 15 12:38 AM

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On 2/16/2015 5:15 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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ROFLMAO! Another typical troll response. Is that all you know?


trolls trolls trolls trolls...



Yup, that's you.

And you think you're making me mad. Far from the truth. The only one
you're irritating is yourself. ROFLMAO!

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[email protected] February 17th 15 01:39 AM

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And you think you're making me mad. Far from the truth. The only one
you're irritating is yourself. ROFLMAO!


From my point of view it is like lightly touching a cat's ear and watching
the reflex reaction.



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Jerry Stuckle February 17th 15 01:44 PM

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On 2/16/2015 8:39 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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And you think you're making me mad. Far from the truth. The only one
you're irritating is yourself. ROFLMAO!


From my point of view it is like lightly touching a cat's ear and watching
the reflex reaction.




ROFLMAO! Trolls like you really are entertaining. You're so stoopid
you don't realize how stoopid you look!


I pointed this thread out to some other pals. We're getting a good
laugh over your posts. Keep it up - we're snowed in today and I can use
the laughs.

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Charlie[_5_] February 17th 15 06:20 PM

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:19:04 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

ROFLMAO! Another typical troll response.


If, as you suggest the poster, is a troll then if a person keeps
responding to that troll then is he not himself a troll?


Just asking.


Charlie.
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gareth February 17th 15 06:46 PM

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"Charlie" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:19:04 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
ROFLMAO! Another typical troll response.

If, as you suggest the poster, is a troll then if a person keeps
responding to that troll then is he not himself a troll?
Just asking.


I think that the three troublesome Yanks have well demonstrated
recently that it is they, and they alone, who are the trolls and
dung-stirrers
in these radio amateur NG.



[email protected] February 17th 15 06:54 PM

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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ROFLMAO! Trolls like you really are entertaining. You're so stoopid
you don't realize how stoopid you look!


I see trolls...


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[email protected] February 17th 15 07:24 PM

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gareth wrote:

I think that the three troublesome Yanks have well demonstrated
recently that it is they, and they alone, who are the trolls and
dung-stirrers
in these radio amateur NG.


Been hauled before a judge lately?


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Jerry Stuckle February 17th 15 08:28 PM

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On 2/17/2015 1:54 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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ROFLMAO! Trolls like you really are entertaining. You're so stoopid
you don't realize how stoopid you look!


I see trolls...



Ah, damn. I lost my bet. I bet you'd come back with another one of
your tunes. One of the other guys was right on, though!

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Jerry Stuckle February 17th 15 08:29 PM

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On 2/17/2015 1:20 PM, Charlie wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:19:04 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

ROFLMAO! Another typical troll response.


If, as you suggest the poster, is a troll then if a person keeps
responding to that troll then is he not himself a troll?


Just asking.


Charlie.
M0WYM.


Only in your mind, Charlie.

Trolls won't discuss the facts. Look back at the beginning of this
thread, where I corrected him on a couple of points. He wouldn't
discuss the points at all.

Jim is a well-known troll in several newsgroups. Correcting him is not
trolling.

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[email protected] February 17th 15 08:40 PM

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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Ah, damn. I lost my bet. I bet you'd come back with another one of
your tunes. One of the other guys was right on, though!


Twitch that ear, kitty.


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[email protected] February 17th 15 08:44 PM

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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Trolls won't discuss the facts. Look back at the beginning of this
thread, where I corrected him on a couple of points. He wouldn't
discuss the points at all.


One can not "discuss points" with an egotistic ass with delusions of
omniscience who's primary response is to call anyone that disagrees with
him in the slightest a troll.



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Jerry Stuckle February 17th 15 08:52 PM

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On 2/17/2015 3:40 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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Ah, damn. I lost my bet. I bet you'd come back with another one of
your tunes. One of the other guys was right on, though!


Twitch that ear, kitty.



ROFLMAO! I won this one, though! You're so predictable. So far I'm
ahead $25.

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