"gareth" wrote in message
...
3. Also, if your RF photons are generated by that same intra-atomic
process, then
what must be the laser / maser like process that induces all the atoms in
a half-wave dipole
to produce the photons in the appropriate phase relationship?

IN particular this question because of the unpredictable statistical nature
of quantum physics, and the dipole radiaition is completely regular and
predictable.

In rec.radio.amateur.antenna gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
3. Also, if your RF photons are generated by that same intra-atomic
process, then
what must be the laser / maser like process that induces all the atoms in
a half-wave dipole
to produce the photons in the appropriate phase relationship?

IN particular this question because of the unpredictable statistical nature
of quantum physics, and the dipole radiaition is completely regular and
predictable.

The statistical nature of quantum physics makes it predictable at the
macro level.

--
Jim Pennino

On 9/11/2015 6:50 AM, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
3. Also, if your RF photons are generated by that same intra-atomic
process, then
what must be the laser / maser like process that induces all the atoms in
a half-wave dipole
to produce the photons in the appropriate phase relationship?

IN particular this question because of the unpredictable statistical nature
of quantum physics, and the dipole radiaition is completely regular and
predictable.

Statistical does not mean "unpredictable". The oceans are full of
individual molecules of water, each moving in a seemingly random manner
from thermal perturbations. But in aggregate they exhibit complex and
beautiful movement of waves breaking on a jetty just as mandated by
quantum mechanics.

--

Rick

"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/11/2015 6:50 AM, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
3. Also, if your RF photons are generated by that same intra-atomic
process, then
what must be the laser / maser like process that induces all the atoms
in
a half-wave dipole
to produce the photons in the appropriate phase relationship?
IN particular this question because of the unpredictable statistical
nature
of quantum physics, and the dipole radiaition is completely regular and
predictable.
Statistical does not mean "unpredictable". The oceans are full of
individual molecules of water, each moving in a seemingly random manner
from thermal perturbations. But in aggregate they exhibit complex and
beautiful movement of waves breaking on a jetty just as mandated by
quantum mechanics.

So, what is the aggregate mechanism in your dipole that has your RF photons
all
actin in synchronicity?

On 9/11/2015 1:19 PM, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/11/2015 6:50 AM, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
3. Also, if your RF photons are generated by that same intra-atomic
process, then
what must be the laser / maser like process that induces all the atoms
in
a half-wave dipole
to produce the photons in the appropriate phase relationship?
IN particular this question because of the unpredictable statistical
nature
of quantum physics, and the dipole radiaition is completely regular and
predictable.
Statistical does not mean "unpredictable". The oceans are full of
individual molecules of water, each moving in a seemingly random manner
from thermal perturbations. But in aggregate they exhibit complex and
beautiful movement of waves breaking on a jetty just as mandated by
quantum mechanics.

So, what is the aggregate mechanism in your dipole that has your RF photons
all
actin in synchronicity?

Where does the "synchronicity" requirement come from? Antenna are not
lasers.

--

Rick

"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/11/2015 1:19 PM, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/11/2015 6:50 AM, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
3. Also, if your RF photons are generated by that same intra-atomic
process, then
what must be the laser / maser like process that induces all the atoms
in
a half-wave dipole
to produce the photons in the appropriate phase relationship?
IN particular this question because of the unpredictable statistical
nature
of quantum physics, and the dipole radiaition is completely regular and
predictable.
Statistical does not mean "unpredictable". The oceans are full of
individual molecules of water, each moving in a seemingly random manner
from thermal perturbations. But in aggregate they exhibit complex and
beautiful movement of waves breaking on a jetty just as mandated by
quantum mechanics.

So, what is the aggregate mechanism in your dipole that has your RF
photons
all
actin in synchronicity?

Where does the "synchronicity" requirement come from? Antenna are not
lasers.

A nice wave emanates from the dipole, and not a collection of wavelets of
random phase,
and yet individual quantum events seem to be unpredictable

On 9/11/2015 1:45 PM, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/11/2015 1:19 PM, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/11/2015 6:50 AM, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
3. Also, if your RF photons are generated by that same intra-atomic
process, then
what must be the laser / maser like process that induces all the atoms
in
a half-wave dipole
to produce the photons in the appropriate phase relationship?
IN particular this question because of the unpredictable statistical
nature
of quantum physics, and the dipole radiaition is completely regular and
predictable.
Statistical does not mean "unpredictable". The oceans are full of
individual molecules of water, each moving in a seemingly random manner
from thermal perturbations. But in aggregate they exhibit complex and
beautiful movement of waves breaking on a jetty just as mandated by
quantum mechanics.

So, what is the aggregate mechanism in your dipole that has your RF
photons
all
actin in synchronicity?

Where does the "synchronicity" requirement come from? Antenna are not
lasers.

A nice wave emanates from the dipole, and not a collection of wavelets of
random phase,
and yet individual quantum events seem to be unpredictable

Quanta are not wavelets. If you understood QM theory you would realize
the two ways of viewing EM waves are not contradictory. Rather they are
two different ways of viewing the same phenomena. The *exact* same
light emitted by a device will show particle or wave like properties
without any difference in how the energy is generated. The only
difference is in how it is viewed.

--

Rick

In rec.radio.amateur.antenna gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/11/2015 6:50 AM, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
3. Also, if your RF photons are generated by that same intra-atomic
process, then
what must be the laser / maser like process that induces all the atoms
in
a half-wave dipole
to produce the photons in the appropriate phase relationship?
IN particular this question because of the unpredictable statistical
nature
of quantum physics, and the dipole radiaition is completely regular and
predictable.
Statistical does not mean "unpredictable". The oceans are full of
individual molecules of water, each moving in a seemingly random manner
from thermal perturbations. But in aggregate they exhibit complex and
beautiful movement of waves breaking on a jetty just as mandated by
quantum mechanics.

So, what is the aggregate mechanism in your dipole that has your RF photons
all
actin in synchronicity?

Are you attempting to ask "How does an antenna generate an elecromagnetic
field?" in the most arcane way possible?


--
Jim Pennino

On 11/09/2015 11:50, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
...
3. Also, if your RF photons are generated by that same intra-atomic
process, then
what must be the laser / maser like process that induces all the atoms in
a half-wave dipole
to produce the photons in the appropriate phase relationship?

IN particular this question because of the unpredictable statistical nature
of quantum physics, and the dipole radiaition is completely regular and
predictable.

You misunderstand the difference between the behaviours and prediction
of individuals and populations.
You cannot predict the nature of a photon but you can predict the nature
of a population.
Going back to the double slit experiment, you cannot predict where a
single photon will end up but you can easily predict the spread of photons.

If I roll 2 dice, I cannot predict the outcome of the roll but I can
show the probability density function of a large number of rolls to a
very high accuracy and show it experimentally.

Andy